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First South West (Kernow & Buses of Somerset)

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32200 and 32207 are to Weymouth tomorrow. I collected 32200 from Penzance this morning to put in place for the driver taking that one. 32207 will be overnighting in Plymouth tonight as a Plymouth driver is taking that one in the morning,
 
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There are suggestions that First Wessex will be operating open tops to Swanage this summer. If correct, this could be planned to be operated by the Lands End Presidents.
 

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Interesting if correct as this would duplicate most of Morebus Route 30 but would offer open top format. I'd had thought a potentially successful option would be to replicate the old Jurassic Mule services between Charmouth, Lyme Regis and Seaton with an open top service, especially now Stagecoach have stopped running between Lyme Regis & Seaton.
 

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Interesting if correct as this would duplicate most of Morebus Route 30 but would offer open top format. I'd had thought a potentially successful option would be to replicate the old Jurassic Mule services between Charmouth, Lyme Regis and Seaton with an open top service, especially now Stagecoach have stopped running between Lyme Regis & Seaton.
The Wool Station to Lulworth Cove and Durdle Door section is the highly lucrative battleground in the area. The X52 over the last couple of years with it's refurbished Gemini half tops and Best Impressions publicity has been the far superior product. The Morebus 30 is being rebranded as Jurassic Breezer this year but will still use closed top Scanias, although they are currently receiving full vinyl livery wraps for this year. (Sorry, off topic for the FSW thread)
 

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The Wool Station to Lulworth Cove and Durdle Door section is the highly lucrative battleground in the area. The X52 over the last couple of years with it's refurbished Gemini half tops and Best Impressions publicity has been the far superior product. The Morebus 30 is being rebranded as Jurassic Breezer this year but will still use closed top Scanias, although they are currently receiving full vinyl livery wraps for this year. (Sorry, off topic for the FSW thread)
But the 30 & 31 seemed to provide better and more frequent rail connections at Wool, I noticed the majority of foreign day trippers off the train at Wool boarded the closed-top Morebus behind the open-top X52 I was on (in good weather).
 

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Two of the yellow open top Volvos were on the Sunseeker service during the course of the day yesterday.
One tracking on it today according to bustimes.org.
 

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yes, there was photos posted on Facebook of 37736/7 out yesterday. Neither have any branding yet and only one of them had the destinations programmed.
 

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yes, there was photos posted on Facebook of 37736/7 out yesterday. Neither have any branding yet and only one of them had the destinations programmed.
This is what lets them down, they should be branded before the season starts. An unbranded yellow bus could be anything.

They do this sort of thing a lot, where it seems to take all season to get everything in place, and then just as they do, it’s withdrawn for the winter and then scrapped in its current form the next summer.
 

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This is what lets them down, they should be branded before the season starts. An unbranded yellow bus could be anything.

They do this sort of thing a lot, where it seems to take all season to get everything in place, and then just as they do, it’s withdrawn for the winter and then scrapped in its current form the next summer.
Yep. And one of them was on the Land's End Coaster yesterday. It's all a bit of a predictable farce regarding the branding.
 

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only 5 of the 9 Lands End Coaster B9s have seen service so far this month
 

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Shortage of buses suspected as 37789 and 32211 were taken off the route on Saturday with defects.

Closed top 37181 in defunct Lizard livery on the Land's End Coaster again today, together with two open top Land's End Coaster Geminis and an unbranded Sunseeker.

So, just two of the nine dedicated Land's End Coaster Geminis are on the road.

Is there an engineering problem at Camborne? This apparent vehicle shortage has been going on for several months with seemingly no improvement in sight.
 
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Or is it just those LK59 plated vehicles perhaps? 37793 entered service way after all the other open tops and 37802/3 have hardly seen service until very recently.
 
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Doesn't that batch have Voith boxes? They wouldnt be ideal for the terrain if they do. They were an odd choice for conversion anyway as their rear fan arrangement takes away an entire row of 5 seats, which is a lot on a half top chop. They might be 2009 and B9s but that's 14 years old already. They're not youthful by any stretch.
 

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They're ZF to my knowledge. I agree, there aren't that many seats in the open as a result, unfortunately.
 

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Doesn't that batch have Voith boxes? They wouldnt be ideal for the terrain if they do. They were an odd choice for conversion anyway as their rear fan arrangement takes away an entire row of 5 seats, which is a lot on a half top chop. They might be 2009 and B9s but that's 14 years old already. They're not youthful by any stretch.
No doubt selected on the basis of affordability and availability.

I'm sure the air chiller could have been removed if wanted.

Conversion to single door would have been also been a nice to have, but again this would have cost.
 

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No doubt selected on the basis of affordability and availability.

I'm sure the air chiller could have been removed if wanted.

Conversion to single door would have been also been a nice to have, but again this would have cost.
The single door conversion (around £10k) isn't really worth it on seasonal open tops. The exit doors also come in handy when tipping out heavy loads. Of course, on classic Enviro 400s, the centre doors can't be removed as they are the second door. The two door model never had an offside emergency exit when built.
 

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Of course, on classic Enviro 400s, the centre doors can't be removed as they are the second door. The two door model never had an offside emergency exit when built.
Plymouth citybus have converted their ex London E400 classics. They’ve added an offside rear door which presumably adds more cost
 

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Of course, on classic Enviro 400s, the centre doors can't be removed as they are the second door. The two door model never had an offside emergency exit when built.
Plenty of dual door E400s have been converted to single door, with an offside emergency exit added.
 

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Plenty of dual door E400s have been converted to single door, with an offside emergency exit added.
A lot of councils (definitely was the case in Kent) prohibit the use of dual door buses on home to school transport, even if its passes on regular services, so conversion would be the only option if purchasing classic E400s.
 

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