Even though they are on sale from tomorrow?BR Fares (at the minute; improvements are in the pipeline) only shows fares that are currently valid. So you won't see them there until shortly after midnight on the 28th.
Even though they are on sale from tomorrow?BR Fares (at the minute; improvements are in the pipeline) only shows fares that are currently valid. So you won't see them there until shortly after midnight on the 28th.
People planning to go to the office on three days a week will mostly expect to be paying 60% of their current season ticket price. Wait for the screams.If that's true, I can help but feel it'll be a PR own goal for the industry if punters find out it's not the magic bullet they'd imagined (as I'd always feared)
Personally it wouldn't be so bad, if there was a more generous time limit for usage than 28 days.
So it's pointless buying a weekly in any week with a bank holiday in it?Stevenage price of £177 was posted earlier and if this is correct it’s not great value but the season ticket from Stevenage to London is poor value anyway being a multiplier if 4.25 times the Anytime Day Return fare.
Try a TOC website, just change the travel date to the 28thAnyone know of a station with a staffed ticket office open at 0001 tomorrow morning?
Yes, absolutely. Unless you travel 5 times a week, and at peak times, a weekly isn’t worth it.So it's pointless buying a weekly in any week with a bank holiday in it?
Sounds pretty complicated to me. Something like the Gold Card is the best kind of loyalty scheme there is. Arguably it should be extended to cover all operators and all stations.Why do discounts, why not do a loyalty card? As you spend you get points to use as money off more tickets. You can be flexible as to how many points you get for different types of ticket. But you reward the big spenders with a decent discount. the once a month guys less so. TOC that sells the tickets pays into a fund to pay for the 'free' tickets.
That would be good as I could get a much cheaper qualifying annual season ticketSounds pretty complicated to me. Something like the Gold Card is the best kind of loyalty scheme there is. Arguably it should be extended to cover all operators and all stations.
Reading to London £351.20 = £43.90 per day, a 12.5% discount on the SDR £50.20.One of the ones to watch will be Reading to London. The Anytime Day Return is expensive but the season ticket reasonable value. Part time commuters will expect to pay the pro-rata season ticket rate.
Stevenage price of £177 was posted earlier and if this is correct it’s not great value but the season ticket from Stevenage to London is poor value anyway being a multiplier if 4.25 times the Anytime Day Return fare.
The specific journey I have been waiting for details on has never offered season tickets, but currently has a West Midlands Trains "flexcarnet" product offering 10% discount on the anytime return for 10 tickets to be used within 2 months.Looks like journeys without existing season tickets don't get Flexi seasons either, so no chance for my commute.
That's £16.80 per day, so not too bad.Just had a look at Leeds-York. For the any permitted:
Anytime day return: £19.20
Weekly season: £62.90
Flexi: £134.40
At those prices I can't see anyone buying a flexi.
In this example, I think the problem might be that someone who works five days a week thinks they pay £12.60 per day.Just had a look at Leeds-York. For the any permitted:
Anytime day return: £19.20
Weekly season: £62.90
Flexi: £134.40
At those prices I can't see anyone buying a flexi.
Yes, they will effectively be daily season tickets between A and B on each day they're activated - valid until 04:29am the next day, valid for break of journey and unlimited usage.Not sure if already asked, but - are FST’s ticketed like anytime/seasons? So break of journey, start short etc - all still possible?
I think a rail equivalent of Tesco Clubcard / frequent flyers would be well understood by passengers though. Something like you earn 5p credit per £1 spent on anytime fares and 2p on off-peaks and advances? Then you get a "free" day every so often when you redeem the credit. That would be more flexible than part time season tickets and commuters wouldn't need to commit to an "X days in Y" pattern.Sounds pretty complicated to me. Something like the Gold Card is the best kind of loyalty scheme there is. Arguably it should be extended to cover all operators and all stations.
I understand what you're saying, but ultimately passengers are looking for something that is really simple and easy to understand. Their alternative is typically to turn the ignition in their car, which doesn't require them to think about loyalty points.I think a rail equivalent of Tesco Clubcard would be well understood by passengers though. Something like you earn 5p credit per £1 on anytime fares and 2p on off-peaks and advances? Then you get a "free" day every so often when you redeem the credit. That would be more flexible than part time season tickets and commuters wouldn't need to commit to an "X days in Y" pattern.
I understand what you're saying, but ultimately passengers are looking for something that is really simple and easy to understand. Their alternative is typically to turn the ignition in their car, which doesn't require them to think about loyalty points.
Ultimately account based ticketing with capping is going to be the solution, so you don't have to decide how often you're going to travel before you travel to get the best deal.
It's the lack of flexibility that is the issue here. Many employers have finally woken up to flexible working but this ticket isn't up to the job. I still don't know what my office pattern will be, but all indications are that office attendance will be for face to face work not face to screen work. Whether that translates to exactly 8 days in 28, remains to be seen.
Still, irrelevant to me as this hasn't been rolled out to Scotland yet.