Football

[Robinson]

Ignore what he said previously because it doesn't agree with your point of view. Brilliant!!

I have not ignored it. I responded to it, in which I indicated that the outcome which Charles Green feared may have happened. But it didn't, and that's the important thing.

Whereas you have ignored this statement from Malcolm Murray and Charles Green, and you have also ignored this interview with Neil Doncaster, in which even he has to admit "it's an existing club, even though it's a new company".
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What about the round that The Rangers entered the Scottish Cup in? If they were the same team then you should have entered at the same round as all the SPL sides, you didn't.

Because, oddly enough, we are in Division 3 and not the SPL. Simple as that.

As I said before, the oldco-newco process which happened at Rangers is exactly the same as what happened in 2007 to Leeds United. The only difference then was Leeds were allowed to remain in League One.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

As I said before, the oldco-newco process which happened at Rangers is exactly the same as what happened in 2007 to Leeds United. The only difference then was Leeds were allowed to remain in League One.

Would the reason be that the English FA and the Scottish FA may have different rules affecting such occurrances ? That is just an idea of mine, but there may well be other forum members who can give you a definite ruling on the matter you have raised.

 

[David]

As I said before, the oldco-newco process which happened at Rangers is exactly the same as what happened in 2007 to Leeds United. The only difference then was Leeds were allowed to remain in League One.

Erm .... Both the following quotes taken from the font of all knowledge, Wikipedia.

In 2012, The Rangers Football Club plc became insolvent and entered administration, resulting in liquidation when an agreement could not be reached with its creditors. Its assets were bought by a new company, to which Rangers' Scottish Football Association membership was transferred, enabling Rangers to begin season 2012–13 in the Scottish Football League's Third Division.

The 2006–07 season started badly with Leeds conceding late goals in several matches, and in September 2006, Blackwell's contract as manager of Leeds United was terminated. Leeds hired John Carver as caretaker manager but his spell was not a success and he was relieved of his duties with Dennis Wise being eventually installed as his replacement after a month without a permanent manager. Defender Matt Kilgallon left in January to join Sheffield United, and Wise was unable to lift the team out of the relegation zone for much of the season, despite bringing a number of experienced loan players and free transfers on short term deals into the squad. With relegation virtually assured, Leeds entered a Company Voluntary Arrangement (administration) on 4 May 2007, thus incurring a league imposed 10-point deduction which officially relegated the club to the third tier of English football.

The CVA was due to end on 3 July 2007, which would have allowed Bates to regain full control of the club, however HM Revenue & Customs challenged the CVA. Under league rules, if the club were still in administration at the start of the next season, Leeds would have been prevented from starting their campaign by the Football League. Following the challenge by HMRC, the club was put up for sale by KPMG, and once again Ken Bates' bid was accepted

As far as I can see, Leeds United were not liquidated, but were instead sold to a new owner, far different from the situation with Rangers, where the club was liquidated and wound up ....

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

What about the round that The Rangers entered the Scottish Cup in? If they were the same team then you should have entered at the same round as all the SPL sides, you didn't.

You will note in England that sides outside the Premiership and the Championship have to enter the FA cup competition in the First Round proper and the lower division league teams in Scotland may well experience a similar ruling.

 

[ReverendFozz]

Amount of grounds I have done is quite small
League
St James' Park - Newcastle and England
Britannia Stadium - Stoke
Stadium of Light/Roker Park - Sunderland and England
Reebok Stadium - Bolton
KC Stadium - Hull
Elland Road - Leeds
The Riverside - Middlesbrough
Gigg Lane - Bury
Victoria Park - Hartlepool
Meadow Lane - Notts County
Crown Ground - Accrington
Bootham Crescent - York

Non League
International Stadium - Gateshead
York Street - Boston
New Ferens Park - Durham
Brewery Field - Spennymoor
UTS Stadium - Dunston
Gillford Park - Celtic Nation
Central Avenue - Billingnham Town
Heritage Park - Darlington
Seaham Town Park - Seaham Red Star
Hetton Centre - Sunderland Res.

Also done

Easter Road - Hibs
Tynecastle - Hearts
Millennium Stadium
Darlington Arena

 

[Chew Chew]

I have not ignored it. I responded to it, in which I indicated that the outcome which Charles Green feared may have happened. But it didn't, and that's the important thing.

Whereas you have ignored this statement from Malcolm Murray and Charles Green, and you have also ignored this interview with Neil Doncaster, in which even he has to admit "it's an existing club, even though it's a new company".
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Given the death threats from the The Rangers support that Charles Green was the victim of, he stated he was moved round safe houses, is it really that difficult to understand why he changed his tune and why the others didn't want to incur the wrath of the The Rangers lunatic fring?

The club was liquidated, someone bought some of the assets. That doesn't make it the same club.

Because, oddly enough, we are in Division 3 and not the SPL. Simple as that.

Really? Why not read how the seedings for the Scottish Cup work?

As I said before, the oldco-newco process which happened at Rangers is exactly the same as what happened in 2007 to Leeds United. The only difference then was Leeds were allowed to remain in League One.

Except of course, that it isn't the same as Leeds had a CVA agreed because HMRC had less than 25% of the total debt.

Scotland may well experience a similar ruling.

In Scotland the round you enter the Scottish Cup in is based on the position you finished in your respective league the previous season. The team that Green bought the assets of finished 2nd in the SPL so, if they were the same side, they should have entered the Scottish Cup at the same point as other teams in the SPL and the top 4 sides in SFL1.

 

[12CSVT]

As everyone seems to be posting which grounds they have been to here's my list

Aggborough (Kidderminster Harriers)
Alt Park (Knowsley United) - club now defunct
Adams Park (Wycombe Wanderers)
Babbage Way (Worksop Town)
Barton Stadium (Winsford United)
Belle Vue, Doncaster (Bridlington Town) - groundsharing with Doncaster Rovers at the time
Birks Field (Cleator Moor Celtic)
Booth Street (Congleton Town)
Bower Field (Stalybridge Celtic)
Brewery Field (Spennymoor United)
Broadhall Way (Stevenage Borough)
Brunton Park (Carlisle United)
Bucks Head (Telford United) - since folded and re-formed
Burnden Park (Bolton Wanderers) - since moved to new ground
Butlin Road (V S Rugby)
Canal Street (Runcorn) - since moved ground, changed name, do they still exist ?
Cantilever Park (Warrington Town)
Cardiff Athletic Stadium (Inter Cable Tel) - since chaned name, current status unknown
Causeway Lane (Matlock Town)
Cherrywood Road (Farnborough Town)
Christie Park (Morecambe)
Claremont Road (Hendon)
County Ground (Northampton Town) - since moved to new ground
Crabble Athletic Ground (Dover Athletic)
Creasey Park (Dunstable Town)
Crilly Park (Atherton Laburnum Rovers)
Croft Park (Blyth Spartans)
Crown Ground (Accrington Stanley)
Croydon Sports Arena (Croydon)
Earlsmead (Harrow Borough)
Edgar Street (Hereford United)
Ellesmere Port Stadium (Colwyn Bay) - groundsharing with Ellesmere Port at the time
Emley Welfare Sports Ground (Emley)
Gander Green Lane (Sutton United)
Gateshead International Stadium (Gateshead)
Grundy Hill (Horwich RMI) - since moved ground and changed name
Haig Avenue (Southport)
Halton Stadium, Widnes (Runcorn)
Harrison Park (Leek Town)
Highbury Stadium, Fleetwood (Fleetwood Town) - since folded and re-formed
Hillgrounds (Kempston Rovers)
Hilton Park (Leigh RMI)
Holker Street (Barrow)
Holt House (Colne Dynamoes)
Huish Park (Yeovil Town)
Hurst Cross (Ashton United)
Jackson Avenue (Nantwich Town)
Kingsway (Bishop Auckland)
Layer Road (Colchester United)
Llanelian Road (Colwyn Bay)
Marston Road (Stafford Rangers)
Moss Lane (Altrincham)
Moss Rose (Macclesfield Town)
Nene Park (Rushden & Diamonds)
North Street (Alfreton Town)
Northolme (Gainsborough Trinity)
Park View (Erith & Belvedere) - also seen a Dartford home match there; ground no longer exists
Pennydarren Park (Merthyr Tydfil)
Rakesmoor Lane (Holker Old Boys)
Raydale Park (Gretna)
Rockingham Road (Kettering Town)
Rossett Park (Marine)
Southbury Road (Enfield)
Stainton Park (Radcliffe Borough)
Stebonheath Park (Llanelli)
Surrey Docks Stadium (Fisher Athletic)
Tameside Stadium (Hyde United)
The Butchers Arms (Droylsden)
The Silverlands (Buxton)
Turnbull Ground (Whitby Town)
Twerton Park (Bath City) - also seen a Trowbridge Town home match there
Vicarage Road, Watford (Wealdstone) - were groundsharing with Watford at the time
Victoria Road (Redbridge Forest / Dagenham & Redbridge)
Victory Park (Chorley)
Watling Street (Dartford) - since moved ground
Watnall Road (Hucknall)
Westfield Lane (Frickley Athletic)
Wexham Park (Slough Town)
Whaddon Road (Cheltenham Town)
Wincham Park (Witton Albion)
York Street (Boston United)

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Bayern Munich say they will appoint Pep Guardiola as their new (manager/coach ?) at the end of this season.

Another blow to those "journalists" in the British sporting press who believe the Premier League in England is "the finest in the world".....

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Runcorn became Runcorn FC Halton (I remember seeing them at Accy Stanley back in't day when they played the likes of Bishop Auckland and Bradford PA in the Northern Premier League). They folded in 2006.

 

[SS4]

Just heard on 5Live that Manchester United were accepting pre-orders for the fourth round game against Fulham before this replay kicked off. 5Live portrayed it as confidence but I see it as arrogant

(or am I forbidden from this because it regards the BBC's favourite team?)

 

[12CSVT]

Just heard on 5Live that Manchester United were accepting pre-orders for the fourth round game against Fulham before this replay kicked off. 5Live portrayed it as confidence but I see it as arrogant

(or am I forbidden from this because it regards the BBC's favourite team?)

Maybe a lot of their fans have more money than sense. What happens if they lose the replay ?

 

[SS4]

Maybe a lot of their fans have more money than sense. What happens if they lose the replay ?

Presumably there'd be a refund. Or perhaps I've been too quick to judge and it may simply be the chance to pre-order with payment due if they do win. It wouldn't be the first time 5live have misinterpreted something

 

[balne-wonderer]

Just heard on 5Live that Manchester United were accepting pre-orders for the fourth round game against Fulham before this replay kicked off. 5Live portrayed it as confidence but I see it as arrogant

(or am I forbidden from this because it regards the BBC's favourite team?)

it is arrogance, nothing else. but its man utd so we cant have an opinion here.
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Bayern Munich say they will appoint Pep Guardiola as their new (manager/coach ?) at the end of this season.

Another blow to those "journalists" in the British sporting press who believe the Premier League in England is "the finest in the world".....

or hes waiting for a certain manager at a certain club to retire....

 

[SS4]

Meanwhile at the Emirates, Arsenal have done pretty much everything but score and Vorm's goal is under siege. Therefore Swansea will win in extra time

Also a good result for Leeds yesterday

edit: Stupid Arsenal scoring after I think of something witty to say xD

 

[balne-wonderer]

great goal to be fair.

odd night last night. awful football, awful support from birmingham not even chanting at one nil up. leeds fans were great last night. loud and proud with shirts off in the freezing conditions. good to get the win as well and got lost trying to find my way out of Birmingham.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Does anyone else think that the Man Utd v Fulham ticket saga may just be a pre-designed webpage that's been accidently released early? I can't imagine that other clubs (especially those as popular as Man U) don't do similar, it's just an admin cock-up at their end. Apparently a few screenshots of it have either been faked, or the webpage has been removed.

 

[balne-wonderer]

in the prem Southampton have come two nil down to be drawing with chelsea.

 

[DarloRich]

nearly! ( i haven't seen us play at Shildon yet!)

I lie - i saw a pre season friendly at Shildon once.

No one else able to have a go at my trivia question?

 

[ReverendFozz]

I lie - i saw a pre season friendly at Shildon once.

No one else able to have a go at my trivia question?

What was the question again???

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[balne-wonderer]

man utd penalty. shock!

and rooney skies it. fergie turns round trying to find someone to blame.

 

[SS4]

man utd penalty. shock!

and rooney skies it

Astronomers have just detected a football sized satellite orbiting the earth
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As a "neutral" I want extra time xD

 

[SWT_USER]

Does anyone else think that the Man Utd v Fulham ticket saga may just be a pre-designed webpage that's been accidently released early? I can't imagine that other clubs (especially those as popular as Man U) don't do similar, it's just an admin cock-up at their end. Apparently a few screenshots of it have either been faked, or the webpage has been removed.

No, think clubs do it all the time. Brentford announced how they were going to sell tickets for the Chelsea game before beating Southend in the replay last night.

 

[balne-wonderer]

Astronomers have just detected a football sized satellite orbiting the earth
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As a "neutral" I want extra time xD

west ham had a penalty denied for hand ball that was pretty much the same as the one man utd did get. why does this always seem to happen at old trafford? for all the nation to see. nothing but old trafford decisions.
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thats a ban for alladyce after those comments. no doubt.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

in the prem Southampton have come two nil down to be drawing with Chelsea.

They held on for a 2-2 draw. Quite a remarkable result for them away from home on what used to be a very hard ground for lesser teams to visit.

 

[DarloRich]

My Grounds List

League

Accrington Stanley - Crown Ground
AFC Bournemouth - Dean Court
Arsenal - Emirates Stadium
Aston Villa - Villa Park
Barnet - Underhill
Barnsley - Oakwell
Birmingham City - St Andrews
Blackpool - Bloomfield Road
Bolton Wanderers - Reebok Stadium
Bradford City - Valley Parade
Brentford - Griffin Park
Brighton & Hove Albion - Withdean ( And Priestfield!)
Bristol City - Ashton Gate
Bristol Rovers - The Memorial Stadium
Burnley - Turf Moor
Burton Albion - Pirelli Stadium
Bury - Giig Lane
Cardiff City - Ninian Park
Carlisle United - Brunton Park
Charlton Athletic - The Valley
Cheltenham Town - Whaddon Road
Chesterfield - Saltergate
Chesterfield - Proact Stadium (Was called the Bnet Stadium i think)
Colchester United - Layer Road
Coventry City - Highfield Road
Coventry City - Rioch Arena ( Womens Olympic Football)
Crewe Alexandra - Gresty Road
Dagenham & Redbridge - Victoria Road
Darlington - Feethams
Darlington - Darlington Arena
Derby County - Pride Park
Doncaster Rovers - Belle Vue
Doncaser Rovers - Keepmoat Stadium
Everton - Goodison Park
Exeter City - St James
Fulham - Craven Cottage
Gillingham - Priestfield ( Brighton game)
Hartlep**h - Victoria Park
Hereford United - Edgar Street
Huddersfield Town - John Smith's Stadium (was the McAlpine then!)
Hull City - Boothferry Park
Hull City - K C Stadium
Ipswich - Portman Road
Leeds - Elland Road
Leyton Orient - Brisbane Road
Liverpool - Anfield
Macclesfield - Moss Rose
Man City - Maine Road
Man Utd - Old Trafford ( GB Olympic game)
Mansfield Town -Field Mill
Middlesbrough - Ayresome Park
Middlesbrough - Riverside Stadium
Millwall - New Den
Milton Keynes - Stadium MK (I was contractually obliged to be there )
Morcombe - Christie Park
Morecombe - Globe Arena
Newcastle United - St James Park
Northampton Town - Sixfields Stadium
Norwich City - Carrow Road
Nottingham FOrrest - City Ground
Notts County - Meadow Lane
Oxford United - Kassam Stadium
Peterborough United - London Road
Plymouth Argyle - Vale Park
Port Vale - Vale Park
Preston North End - Deepdale
Reading - Madejski Stadium
Rochdale - Spotland
Rotherham United - Millmoor
Scunthorpe United - Glandford Park
Shrewsbury - Gay Meadow
Shrewsbury - The New Meadow
Southampton - St Marys
Stockport County - Edgeley Park
Stoke City - Britannia Stadium
Sunderland - Roker Park
Sunderland - Stadium of Light
Swansea City - Vetch Field
Torquay United - Plainmoor
Watford - Vicarage Road
Wigan Athletic - Springfield Park
Wigan Athletic - D W Stadium ( it was the JJB then!)
Wolves - Molineux
York City - Bootham Crescent

Non League

Boston United - York Street
Cambridge Unied - The Abbey
Grimsby Town - Blundell Park
Luton Town - Kenilworth Road
Halifax - The Shay
Chester City - The Deva Stadium
Lincoln City - Sincil Bank
Scarborough - The McCain Stadium
Wrexham - The Racecourse Ground
Barrow - Holker Street
Alfreton Town - North Street
Gateshead - International Stadium
Ebbsfleet United - Stonebridge Road
Kidderminster Harriers - Aggborough
AFC Telford - New Bucks Head
Forrest Green Rovers - The New Lawn
Bishop Auckland - Kingsway
Bishop Auckland - Heritage Park (Darlington home ground)
Shildon - Dean Street
Celtic Nation/Gifford Park - Gillford Park Stadium
Team Northumbria - Coach Lane Campus Ground
Durham City - New Ferens Park
Billingham Synthonia - Central Avenue
Billingham Town - The Ron Grieg Stadium
Northallerton Town - Regency Stadium
Darlington RA - Brinkburn Road
Lowestoft Town - Crown Meadow
Great Yarmouth - Wellesley Recreation Ground
Tiverton Town - Ladysmead
Bideford AFC - The Sports Ground
Harrogate Town - Wetherby Road

Scotland

Celtic - Celtic Park
Rangers - Ibrox
St Mirren - Love Street
St Mirren - St Mirren Park
Partick Thistle - Firhill Stadium
Kilmarnock - Rugby Park
Hamilton Academical - New Douglas Park
Queens Park - Hampden Park

International

Wembley (Old)
Wembley (New)
Hampden (Queens Park Football Club!)
Windsor Park - (Linfield v Portadown)

Abroad
FC Barcelona - Camp Nou
AZ Alkmaar - Alkmaarderhout
AK Graz - Arnold Schwarzenegger-Stadium
Steaua Bucharest - Stadionul Steaua

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

What was the question again???

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What four home grounds have been used by Darlington.

 

[DarloRich]

What four home grounds have been used by Darlington.

I will make it 5 as one was out home then we changed our mind!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

With regard to the "grounds attended" postings, I will not make a posting as I most probably have forgotten some (maybe a lot) league and non-league grounds that I have been to since 1955....

However, I do have had the honour of attending a home match at Claggan Park, the ground of the team where no end of bad results, waterlogged pitches and playing "second-fiddle" to the local shinty club seem to diminish their will to continue. I give you...Fort William FC.

 

[Darandio]

I will make it 5 as one was out home then we changed our mind!

Got me stumped then fella. Was it local? Was it during your time supporting? Did you have a game at somewhere like the Brewery Field?

 

[ReverendFozz]

Feethams
Darlo Arena
Heritage Park
Of course we backed out of Dean Street

The other ground, I am gonna guess Norton Sports Complex, sure the Reserves played there

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