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Freight train derailed at Lewisham 24/01
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theageofthetra
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Any pictures of it. Couldn't be in a worse place.
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Don't recall seeing that often, Hastings-Tonbridge-London services going via Redhill and East Croydon. It must be quite bad if they've decided to take this approach.
My first trip is via Lewisham and a rounder
Not sure if I want to go to work today. It's either going to be awesome and I can get some pool practice in or its going to be hell and I'm going to get sworn at multiple times. Hopefully it will be cleared by lunch. I must admit NR are very good at dealing with derailments. The one at Charlton was sorted out incredibly fast and the line rebuilt and back in service pretty quick.
Any idea if the track has been damaged ? That junction took a couple of months (iirc) the last time it was damaged.
According to a map I drew at https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/nkl1#T_HTHRGRN, all lines blocked through Hither Green, which is quite bad.
theageofthetra
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My first trip is via Lewisham and a rounder
Hopefully it will be cleared by lunch. I must admit NR are very good at dealing with derailments. The one at Charlton was sorted out incredibly fast and the line rebuilt and back in service pretty quick.
Any idea if the track has been damaged ? That junction took a couple of months (iirc) the last time it was damaged.
Has it actually derailed over the junction heading up to Nunhead?
Not from the descriptions available. It sounds like it's between Lewisham and Hither Green with the train blocking the Hayes line as well. I'd guess that power has had to be turned off over a wider area hence no trains through either Hither Green or Ladywell.
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Those of you attempting to get to Woolwich Arsenal for the DLR, beware: there's a broken down train stuck on the line between King George V and WWA, and they've closed the DLR station temporarily. DLR staff are advising passengers to head for North Greenwich by bus. Southeastern staff are (naturally) still advising passengers to change to the DLR at Woolwich...
What a morning! Double whammy for Southeastern commuters...
What a morning! Double whammy for Southeastern commuters...
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Blindtraveler
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Southern heres your chance to shine and play god over your Govia Sister lol
(https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/823803192907624448/photo/1)
I think Mike is right about the power being switched off as if its derailed over Courthill (on the down ?) It would prevent anything running down to Hayes and therefore affect the up direction. But, you could still run trains over parks bridge and up the fast or up the Hayes and via Ladywell Loop For it to block everything must be power off or a more serious derailment.
I think Mike is right about the power being switched off as if its derailed over Courthill (on the down ?) It would prevent anything running down to Hayes and therefore affect the up direction. But, you could still run trains over parks bridge and up the fast or up the Hayes and via Ladywell Loop For it to block everything must be power off or a more serious derailment.
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Dr Hoo
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What has it got to do with BTP? Is there a suggestion of criminality? No RAIB?
Deepgreen
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Not a clue what this post means. Are you under the mistaken impression that Southern serves Lewisham and can offer assistance to those stuck there?
Deepgreen
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What "detailing"? We still have few details.
Pretty clear thats a typo and meant to say derailing.
Going to be a fun day for everyone for sure.
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Deepgreen
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No doubt the usual requirement to undertake drug and alcohol testing of the driver, etc.
I have to say that there does seem to be a greater-than-average number of freight derailments in SE London of late. I may be wrong and am happy to be corrected with statistics, but I have an impression (and only that) of issues with wagons' fitness to run, acknowledging that I know nothing of the cause of this derailment - I'm thinking back to the derailment a few months ago where wagons were binding on a junction's geometry. The facts behind each incident may point to various root causes, but the proportion of freight to passenger working derailments seems high at the moment.
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Hmm - that's not going to be cleared up by lunch time!
And wasn't freight recently banned from the flyover Lewisham due to fears over safety. I know that's a different area. The flyover was a planned short term fix after a crash about 50 years ago but never replaced.
The points at Lewisham broke a year or two back causing a week or longer of problems. For years people have said Lewisham needs a comprehensive rebuild. It needed it before all the towers were built around it the past 5 years. At least 5-10 more are planned the next 5 years.
The points at Lewisham broke a year or two back causing a week or longer of problems. For years people have said Lewisham needs a comprehensive rebuild. It needed it before all the towers were built around it the past 5 years. At least 5-10 more are planned the next 5 years.
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Meanwhile on the catford loop, no extra trains stopped to handle the extra demand despite plenty going through (from both SET and TL, some of which was half empty with seats visible).
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Lewisham isnt that far from Grain, perhaps there was a defect with the wagon that was overlooked.
How are those wagons unloaded? Does the grain come out of the bottom? With JNAs a grabber is used, and i have seen how they treat them, they really smash them up with the grabbers and knock them about
How are those wagons unloaded? Does the grain come out of the bottom? With JNAs a grabber is used, and i have seen how they treat them, they really smash them up with the grabbers and knock them about
There can be any number of reasons or combination of reasons why it derailed, no point speculating untill someone can offer some actual facts.
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I don't there's anything wrong with speculation on a discussion forum as long as it is clearly identified as such.
There is good photo on that link showing the location.
I imagine it's derailed right at the back, hence Hither Green showing platforms 1-5 blocked.
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Meant derailing, apologies! Auto-correct caught me out.
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