Deepgreen
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Indeed - the last three wagons. From the pictures, it gives the impression that it's on a route dominated by freight, rather than the opposite, given the two trains shown!
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Freight train derailed at Lewisham 24/01
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Indeed - the last three wagons. From the pictures, it gives the impression that it's on a route dominated by freight, rather than the opposite, given the two trains shown!
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some new photos are up now
Deepgreen
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The same batch as previously, I think.
Of the NR pair of photos the left hand photo appears to show the aluminium strip part of an impedance bond (also note IBJs in the running rails) bent between the 2 derailed wagons which is presumably the signalling equipment damage BaldRick mentioned in post 13.
Some recovery should be possible for this evening but not realistically for services on the slows for Sidcup /Orpington.
It happened back in November time as I was on a 375 from East Croydon via Redhill which was heading for Hastings (which given the Southern fiasco, gave the line some service too!) but I don't believe it is generally all too common
Deepgreen
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It occurs fairly often, either from engineering diversions or blockages such as this.
Link to 6M90 6M90 0356 Grain Foster Yeoman Gbrf to Neasden Charrington Gbrf
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H22226/2017/01/24/advanced
Now reinstated as 6Z90 1200 Lewisham to Neasden Charrington Gbrf
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O66668/2017/01/24/advanced
Would this be the same train continuing forward minus the errant wagons?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H22226/2017/01/24/advanced
Now reinstated as 6Z90 1200 Lewisham to Neasden Charrington Gbrf
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O66668/2017/01/24/advanced
Would this be the same train continuing forward minus the errant wagons?
Deepgreen
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It's not SE's day! From Southern's web site just now, with just a hint of understatement in the last line:
"A fault with the electric third rail between Hastings and Eastbourne
Train services running between Eastbourne and Ashford International via Hastings are subject to delay alteration and cancellation.
The 13:50 Hastings to Charing Cross has stalled at St Leonards Warrior Square due to the train losing all the equipment that the train uses to make contact with the electric third rail which supplies the train with power to move.
There is currently a limited service between Eastbourne and Ashford International.
Buses are being mobilized to operate between Ashford International and Hastings and between Hastings and Eastbourne.
Brighton & Hove buses are accepting Southern tickets between Brighton and Eastbourne.
Southeastern are also affected by this problem."
"A fault with the electric third rail between Hastings and Eastbourne
Train services running between Eastbourne and Ashford International via Hastings are subject to delay alteration and cancellation.
The 13:50 Hastings to Charing Cross has stalled at St Leonards Warrior Square due to the train losing all the equipment that the train uses to make contact with the electric third rail which supplies the train with power to move.
There is currently a limited service between Eastbourne and Ashford International.
Buses are being mobilized to operate between Ashford International and Hastings and between Hastings and Eastbourne.
Brighton & Hove buses are accepting Southern tickets between Brighton and Eastbourne.
Southeastern are also affected by this problem."
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LeylandLen
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Theres a quick 35 sec video of derailment on BBC London news at 17.05.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-london-38688587
Sorry do not know how to post direct link to Network Rails youtube page.
Sorry do not know how to post direct link to Network Rails youtube page.
scott118
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Take the characters at the end of the YouTube URL and put them between YouTube tags.
So if the video URL is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIbbfWMZnVY, then this: [youtube]dIbbfWMZnVY[/youtube] gives you this:
[youtube]dIbbfWMZnVY[/youtube]
LeylandLen
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Thanks najaB and scot118
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Ploughman
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Ballast looks new and some of the rails.
Was this a renewal site?
Was this a renewal site?
OFFDN
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Yes, it was.
This photo from Network Rail's twitter feed shows a piece of broken rail.
https://twitter.com/networkrail/status/823934099299692545
https://twitter.com/networkrail/status/823934099299692545
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LeylandLen
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Just noticed the caption on pic 5 in Evening Standard article
"Aftermath: One of the freight train's carriages lying on its side." Did that get past the editor ..? carriages on a freight train ? ..
"Aftermath: One of the freight train's carriages lying on its side." Did that get past the editor ..? carriages on a freight train ? ..
thanks for that, I know exactly where it happened now and where I thought.
I think it's a 25 around there, not sure about freight speed so it couldn't be going that fast. I feel for the driver.
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Chances of freight being diverted via Medway Valley Line (again) while this is repaired - anyone?!
Class 466
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Disruption expected until End of service tomorrow at least with the following alterations:
The following stations will have no service:
Lee, Mottingham and New Eltham
A limited service will run between Sidcup and Dartford via Crayford
St Johns, New Cross & Hither Green stations will have a limited service
Services on the Hayes Line won’t be able to stop at Lewisham
Trains between Cannon Street and Orpington via Grove Park will not run, but trains will run to & from Charing Cross
Trains between Cannon Street and the Medway Towns will run from London Blackfriars in the morning & evening.
The following stations will have no service:
Lee, Mottingham and New Eltham
A limited service will run between Sidcup and Dartford via Crayford
St Johns, New Cross & Hither Green stations will have a limited service
Services on the Hayes Line won’t be able to stop at Lewisham
Trains between Cannon Street and Orpington via Grove Park will not run, but trains will run to & from Charing Cross
Trains between Cannon Street and the Medway Towns will run from London Blackfriars in the morning & evening.
I don't think so. That was billed as between Hither Green and Crayford and it was repairs to the conductor rail. It seemed to be ok to finish the morning rush hour then shut for 5 hours and open again for the evening.
It's not fun living in Crayford at the moment.
Kentish Paul
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Sorry folks, been away for a while.
Not visited all the links but where exactly was the derailment?
Commuted for years on the classic line from Ashford to London but cannot work out how this caused so much disruption.
Apologies if i've missed something obvious.
Not visited all the links but where exactly was the derailment?
Commuted for years on the classic line from Ashford to London but cannot work out how this caused so much disruption.
Apologies if i've missed something obvious.
I wonder how feasible it would be to run a shuttle between Dartford and Orpington via the Lee freight loop so Sidcup line passengers could change at Grove Park?
The freight train was heading towards Lewisham platform 1 and derailed where the line splits from the mainline. It took out power and signalling over quite a wide area hence the severe lack of trains today.
Ploughman
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The rail looks new, so unlikely to be fatigue.
Class 466
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The pointwork in question was installed just a couple of weekends ago.
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