Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
Not the "no true lockdown" argument again.
It wasn't. Even the Government didn't use the term.
Not the "no true lockdown" argument again.
And would certainly have been incredibly dangerous and damaging.Not that I personally want one , but an actual true full lockdown at the first opportunity , may well have worked.
Not that I personally want one , but an actual true full lockdown at the first opportunity , may well have worked.
Not an argument , just a fact . I'm not pro lockdown at all and as a key worker I was out most day's , but let's not say we had a full lockdown when we didn't.Not the "no true lockdown" argument again.
Not an argument , just a fact . I'm not pro lockdown at all and as a key worker I was out most day's , but let's not say we had a full lockdown when we didn't.
I think it does , the poster I was replying to said a full lockdown didn't work. The fact it wasn't actually a full lockdown and was a partial lockdown , could be the reason it didn't work. It may not have been the reason . But how can you say something didn't work , when we didn't actually do it.I think given that it has been repeatedly called a lockdown in the media, it's a reasonable term to use. Perhaps it may not have been the most strict, and we can debate the relative effectivenesses in other threads, but this semantic pedantry adds nothing to the discussion.
The Scottish Government did, and continue to. In fact Sturgeon refers to it as lockdown almost daily.It wasn't. Even the Government didn't use the term.
So are you saying that if we had had a full lockdown then the virus would now be eliminated?Not that I personally want one , but an actual true full lockdown at the first opportunity , may well have worked.
Did you actually read the part where I said it could of been or may not have been . I said we don't know . But you can't say a full lockdown didn't work , when we didn't have one.So are you saying that if we had had a full lockdown then the virus would now be eliminated?
So are you saying that if we had had a full lockdown then the virus would now be eliminated?
Most people I’ve seen in taxis and most of the drivers as well have been wearing face coverings in my experience for months now. They are just formalising what most people were doing anyway.Absolutely amazed that masks were not required in taxis and private hire as soon as that applied to other public transport - the closed environment means near guaranteed spread if driver or passenger has it, unless there is a full height screen with no "money hole". Indeed I thought they were!
Have the government published the new laws regarding licensed premises? I cannot find anything.
Have the government published the new laws regarding licensed premises? I cannot find anything.
Are we any the wiser regarding people stood outside pubs drinking?They won't be until 5 minutes before they take effect, no doubt, but they will be the same as the Newcastle local ones I'd expect.
I thought they were as well. I've just had a cursory look and there's a blog dating back to the 11th August here from Uber that says face coverings are mandatory in their vehicles. Perhaps that's what we were thinking of...Absolutely amazed that masks were not required in taxis and private hire as soon as that applied to other public transport - the closed environment means near guaranteed spread if driver or passenger has it, unless there is a full height screen with no "money hole". Indeed I thought they were!
I wonder if pub hours will ever be unrestricted again? The Police and local authorities notably don't like late opening. Could we end up with it back at 11pm permanently I wonder?
Not our Costa, you get free food and upsized drinks if you're a non-wearer!Most people I’ve seen in taxis and most of the drivers as well have been wearing face coverings in my experience for months now. They are just formalising what most people were doing anyway.
You’ve had to wear a face covering in hospitality settings whilst not seated for a while as well. They’ve certainly told you to do this in Costa
You’ve not been in the one in York, you were Strictly not allowed to move from the bit where you pay until the person at the bit where you get the drinks had moved on, resulting in nobody else being able to be served. They were very strict.Not our Costa, you get free food and upsized drinks if you're a non-wearer!
I thought they were as well. I've just had a cursory look and there's a blog dating back to the 11th August here from Uber that says face coverings are mandatory in their vehicles. Perhaps that's what we were thinking of...
That's just the best of a bad deal, it's still a bad deal.Labour would have us locked up till 2022. My partner cancelled her membership because of their stance. So one positive from all this!
And it's also political suicide. I don't think any leader of any of the parties is that daft.Turning guns on the population is not acceptable.
You’ve not been in the one in York, you were Strictly not allowed to move from the bit where you pay until the person at the bit where you get the drinks had moved on, resulting in nobody else being able to be served. They were very strict.
Demand seems to be odd at the moment.
We stayed in two premier inns in the Birmingham area at the beginning of the month, and I’d say they were roughly what one would have expected, simply going by price and how busy the car park was.
We then went to a Travelodge in Essex (essentially the only place to stay in the town we wanted to be based) and it was fairly empty, though plenty of vans in the car park which seems to be an increasing trend at these sorts of places.
West Wales has been curious however. Last week the whole place was apparently rammed - could barely get a room for love nor money pretty much anywhere. Even Llanelli premier inn sold out! Yet this week things seem pretty empty. In the hotel we’re in now there were only two cars in the car park on Sunday night. I know there was some kind of walking holiday group here which may have contributed locally last week, but that shouldn’t have made that much difference in the grand scheme of things.
Not sure if all this talk of rising infection has put people off, or whether the fine weather last week caused a late rush. So far we’ve been in Wales for seven days and it hasn’t rained yet, which to be fair isn’t bad going, indeed today is the first day the sky has been grey.
Interestingly from what I can gather the local lockdowns only apply to people living in Wales, so in theoretically one could go on holiday from England to somewhere like RCT. This seems sufficiently odd that it seems hard to believe, but I’ve heard it from multiple sources.
Yeah I agree with that, it did seem a little like a threat. Not that I agree with it or that it would change my view on anything.I may be wrong but it seemed like a threat really , possibly just to try and get more compliance with face coverings and social distancing.
What did everyone think of the speech?
Must admit, I find it funny how it's not at all 'realistic' to expect the vulnerable/elderly to isolate/shield whilst we pursue herd immunity, but he does find it 'realistic' and 'possible' that everyone might have to do that if the numbers get too high.