From what I can see the driver didn't have too much choice where the train came to a stand. The route would have been set for the train to pass the WGC fast lines, and either the train replaced the signal to red as per normal or the signaller cancelled the route after speaking to the driver.Yet it is blocking the line and not moving. Normally the driver would stop before the red light unless there was a problem. At least it is only several coaches beyond the light as you say.
It was a total loss of power from the unit, and also unable to release brakes.The OP has inadvertently implied that a signal has been passed at danger, at this stage there appears to be no information to support either way.
As other members have highlighted it is entirely possible that the signal was passed with a proceed aspect and has switched back to red as the train occupies the next section. Stopping under the signal gantry being a complete coincidence.
I can’t see any tweets or suchlike as yet about this.
The OP has inadvertently implied that a signal has been passed at danger, at this stage there appears to be no information to support either way.
As other members have highlighted it is entirely possible that the signal was passed with a proceed aspect and has switched back to red as the train occupies the next section. Stopping under the signal gantry being a complete coincidence.
I can’t see any tweets or suchlike as yet about this.
I didn’t imply that it was a SPAD indeed did not use the word until now.
I didn’t imply that it was a SPAD indeed until just now.
They got evacuated to another GC unit brought alongside on Down fast, taken to Stevenage where they boarded other services. That unit the returned and is now attached to the failed unit.Been there some time see attached
If passengers were on it hope they got evacuated safely
I see it's had the route for ages but isn't budging and is causing a queue of trains.They got evacuated to another GC unit brought alongside on Down fast, taken to Stevenage where they boarded other services. That unit the returned and is now attached to the failed unit.
Update at 18.45 unit is about to move into the sidings at Welwyn Garden City.
5mph to move it.I see it's had the route for ages but isn't budging and is causing a queue of trains.
If the brakes apply themselves you stop where you stop!Normally the driver would stop before the red light unless there was a problem.
All the problems they’ve had lately can’t be many left.These 180s seem to be causing more and more issues. Not to mention that they’re the last diesel trains into Kings Cross. I think the last few incidents just further reinforce the point that the 180s need replacing.
Indeed. The 91s look reliable in comparison to these things!All the problems they’ve had lately can’t be many left.
Been cancelling multiple services daily due to unit shortages.
The unit that failed near Newark, carriage that ran away at Crofton and now this today.
Thankfully todays stopped in a position to not cause to much issue, if it had occurred one signal section previous, then Like would of been completely blocked heading south, and services would of had to divert where possible for Hertford.
These 180s seem to be causing more and more issues. Not to mention that they’re the last diesel trains into Kings Cross. I think the last few incidents just further reinforce the point that the 180s need replacing.
I have created a new thread to discuss whether or not they should be banned from the ECML, as follows:..., it seems to me that these notoriously unreliable 180s should never have been allowed to start on the ECML.
The unit that failed near Newark, carriage that ran away at Crofton and now this today.
The GC units weren’t too bad when Heaton did most of the work on them. Now Crofton seem to have more of the work they’ve gone down the pan just like the Hull Trains units did when they went to Crofton. Almost as if the problem is Crofton…They weren't so bad when Old Oak Common maintained them for Hull Trains and Great Western. Unfortunately, as unreliable as the mechanics of a Adelante are, I don't think having Crofton (a Bombardier now Alstom) depot have been much of a great help to them. At least the OOC staff knew the ins and outs of them.
It's almost as if Bombardier didn't enjoy looking after someone else's units...The GC units weren’t too bad when Heaton did most of the work on them. Now Crofton seem to have more of the work they’ve gone down the pan just like the Hull Trains units did when they went to Crofton. Almost as if the problem is Crofton…