GTR - Trainee Train Driver vacancies (07/12/20)

[LewesTom]

I saw this...I'm a signaller and love my job, but still is very tempting!

 

[Gooner265]

Yeah I wondered if I should apply for Thameslink and also Southern. Did you just put same answers in both? - assuming same questions were asked in each application form.

I just applied for Thameslink , all the links take you to the same website so presume you only have to apply once, there's nowhere to state your preference?

 

[Mr silverstein]

Thanks a lot for sharing.

does anyone know what other toc that doesnt use the dfft as apart of their assessment

 

[Javelin_55]

I just applied for Thameslink , all the links take you to the same website so presume you only have to apply once, there's nowhere to state your preference?

I suspect they'll focus on getting people into the talent pool first and then work out where everyone belongs when vacancies actually arise at the various depots.

 

[Class2ldn]

Well thing is the terms and conditions and roster etc differs depending on who your with.
Personally I think TL is better but maybe others will disagree lol

 

[L33mcc]

how many characters did you guys enter in each question ?

 

[Economist]

Well thing is the terms and conditions and roster etc differs depending on who your with.
Personally I think TL is better but maybe others will disagree lol

Do Southern have different contracts for people who started before/after a certain date (except protected staff)? I'm aware that post-2017 TL drivers have quite a few things that are worse than their pre-2017 counterpart.

Will be interesting to see if they consider qualified drivers, especially from the blue lot next door.

 

[micker001]

I've put my application in twice. I'm hopeful but probably live to far away. Good luck everyone who applied. Its an amazing opportunity for someone.

 

[whoosh]

Do Southern have different contracts for people who started before/after a certain date (except protected staff)? I'm aware that post-2017 TL drivers have quite a few things that are worse than their pre-2017 counterpart.

Will be interesting to see if they consider qualified drivers, especially from the blue lot next door.

I don't think anything is different for new drivers at Southern after their last multi-year deal.

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As for Thameslink and Great Northern, the only changes for the worse for new drivers are:

•A commitment to work 12 Sundays a year (although you can get another Driver to work any number of these for you). It's 8 for Drivers pre-2017.
•And there isn't a taxi agreement to get to and from work before 0500 or after 0100 if there is no train service to/from your local station. (This condition had been introduced for pre-2017 drivers when duties became allowed to be booked on/off between those hours following a pay deal some years ago, as they hadn't previously).

I'm pretty sure that's it.

 

[Diesel1985]

I don't think anything is different for new drivers at Southern after their last multi-year deal.

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As for Thameslink and Great Northern, the only changes for the worse for new drivers are:

•A commitment to work 12 Sundays a year (although you can get another Driver to work any number of these for you). It's 8 for Drivers pre-2017.
•And there isn't a taxi agreement to get to and from work before 0500 or after 0100 if there is no train service to/from your local station. (This condition had been introduced for pre-2017 drivers when duties became allowed to be booked on/off between those hours following a pay deal some years ago, as they hadn't previously).

I'm pretty sure that's it.

GTR Thameslink Great Northern

www.aslef.org.uk

This article still mentions the taxi agreement?

Thanks

 

[dev_27]

Hello folks, I am from aviation background and applying for trainee train driver role.
M struggling to answer last question Abt unhappy customer for train delay. Any expert can throw some light or share any tips? As I have no idea what happens in railway,

 

[joshuan542]

Hello folks, I am from aviation background and applying for trainee train driver role.
M struggling to answer last question Abt unhappy customer for train delay. Any expert can throw some light or share any tips? As I have no idea what happens in railway,

What sort of aviation background?

 

[dev_27]

What sort of aviation background?

Operations and customer service

 

[whoosh]

GTR Thameslink Great Northern

www.aslef.org.uk

This article still mentions the taxi agreement?

Thanks

It also mentions First Group lower down the page!

Taxi agreement is for pre-2017 Drivers.

Unfortunately, ASLEF's housekeeping regarding keeping the Company Information pages up to date and accurate is found wanting.

 

[387star]

I don't think anything is different for new drivers at Southern after their last multi-year deal.

==========

As for Thameslink and Great Northern, the only changes for the worse for new drivers are:

•A commitment to work 12 Sundays a year (although you can get another Driver to work any number of these for you). It's 8 for Drivers pre-2017.
•And there isn't a taxi agreement to get to and from work before 0500 or after 0100 if there is no train service to/from your local station. (This condition had been introduced for pre-2017 drivers when duties became allowed to be booked on/off between those hours following a pay deal some years ago, as they hadn't previously).

I'm pretty sure that's it.

Which isn't bad really though no taxis would have killed me with my commute

 

[choochoochoo]

I don't think anything is different for new drivers at Southern after their last multi-year deal.

==========

As for Thameslink and Great Northern, the only changes for the worse for new drivers are:

•A commitment to work 12 Sundays a year (although you can get another Driver to work any number of these for you). It's 8 for Drivers pre-2017.
•And there isn't a taxi agreement to get to and from work before 0500 or after 0100 if there is no train service to/from your local station. (This condition had been introduced for pre-2017 drivers when duties became allowed to be booked on/off between those hours following a pay deal some years ago, as they hadn't previously).

I'm pretty sure that's it.

Taxi Agreement is for finishes after 0000 (not 0100) thankfully. Also if you have to wait more than one hour after your booked finish time for a train from your depot they'll get you a taxi. (Or if the first train to your depot arrives more than an hour before your booked start time, you can get a taxi too).

And in lieu of rail replacement buses too.

 

[387star]

Taxi Agreement is for finishes after 0000 (not 0100) thankfully. Also if you have to wait more than one hour after your booked finish time for a train from your depot they'll get you a taxi. (Or if the first train to your depot arrives more than an hour before your booked start time, you can get a taxi too).

And in lieu of rail replacement buses too.

I asked for a taxi once when there were replacement buses and got turned down. Drove in that time!

 

[rhys37429]

Yes it's DOO so requires a higher pass

The pay offer for DOO isn't worth it for me...

 

[387star]

The pay offer for DOO isn't worth it for me...

Sorry is this a joke ? You get your key anyway you can. It's not that bad with modern traction unless you're at an intensive metro depot. If you have to delay the train to deal with people setting off smoke alarms or a call for aid going off it's not your problem

 

[Economist]

Thank you all for the info, I'm tempted to make a few enquiries and see how it goes.

 

[B1990]

So it’s ok to apply for more then one? For instance I’ve applied for great northern but discovered southern is closer to home... will each application be viewed separately?

 

[DonkeyKong]

Does anybody know where Southerns training school is located?

 

[Diesel1985]

It also mentions First Group lower down the page!

Taxi agreement is for pre-2017 Drivers.

Unfortunately, ASLEF's housekeeping regarding keeping the Company Information pages up to date and accurate is found wanting.

Thank you for your reply. So if a driver were to start at Barnham, then finish after midnight (or whenever the last train is) at a different station, how do they get back to Barnham? Or do you always start and finish at the same station when starting your shift early or finishing late?

 

[Class2ldn]

Your duty will always have you finishing at your home depot. How you get home from there is up to you.
Generally on tl they don't keep tabs so if you need a taxi they'll get one sorted

 

[DonkeyKong]

Thank you for your reply. So if a driver were to start at Barnham, then finish after midnight (or whenever the last train is) at a different station, how do they get back to Barnham? Or do you always start and finish at the same station when starting your shift early or finishing late?

Staff taxi

 

[MatthewLdn]

I’ve been thinking about applying, however, I currently have a live application with another toc, having passed all the assessments and dmi, bar the mmi, to a standard level. Not sure whether to risk my current application, because if I fail the enhanced tests, will that override my previous passes? I’m not sure whether to sit tight and wait or take a chance with this application. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[DonkeyKong]

You're passed assessments should be valid on other TOCS. They're nationally recognised. You wouldn't need to retake them unless the time limit has expired from when you passed them.

 

[Diesel1985]

Your duty will always have you finishing at your home depot. How you get home from there is up to you.
Generally on tl they don't keep tabs so if you need a taxi they'll get one sorted

Thank you. That's what I was hoping

 

[baz962]

You're passed assessments should be valid on other TOCS. They're nationally recognised. You wouldn't need to retake them unless the time limit has expired from when you passed them.

I believe Thameslink require enhanced and the person you quoted said that they passed to standard. They may well have to redo them , if Thameslink want a higher pass.

 

[MatthewLdn]

I believe Thameslink require enhanced and the person you quoted said that they passed to standard. They may well have to redo them , if Thameslink want a higher pass.

Is it the same tests and the enhanced level is just based on a higher score?