No I think it is planned to use calibrated volunteers rather than weights
(I'm being serious about the volunteers, less so about the calibration!)
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.No I think it is planned to use calibrated volunteers rather than weights
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It's very handy having a set of ballast weights that can move themselves into and out of position!No I think it is planned to use calibrated volunteers rather than weights
This is very true!It's very handy having a set of ballast weights that can move themselves into and out of position!
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Services currently suspended between West Ealing and Greenford due to a broken down train. Is this the 230 or a failed Turbo?
165120 has engine issues.
45669
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I didn't think they were doing any 230 test running on Mondays?
They're not. It's a failed Turbo.
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Realtime Trains shows trains are now running again. It also shows the 230 test trains running tomorrow through to Friday.
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Thanks for the info.
No idea - I'd just seen there was a broken down train and was curious
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I've finally managed to see 230001!
RD27642. 230001 at West Ealing. by Ron Fisher, on Flickr
230001 on a test run at Greenford:
RD27643vid. 230001 at Greenford. by Ron Fisher, on Flickr
RD27642. 230001 at West Ealing. by Ron Fisher, on Flickr230001 on a test run at Greenford:
RD27643vid. 230001 at Greenford. by Ron Fisher, on Flickr
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How is the testing going, if you can say?
Very well so far. So much so that there is a plan being formulated to do a full day's running on the Greenford branch on Sunday week (30th June), from 0800 to 2230, to push the unit a bit further.
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I had a brief chat with one of the chaps involved when I was at West Ealing last week and was quite enthusiastic.
230001 and the charging system will be put through its paces this coming Sunday 30th June when it will be emulating (almost) a full day of passenger service. Except without passengers. But nonetheless, it will be 28 round trips from West Ealing to Greenford and back (the normal service is 31), first one arriving Greenford at 08:37, last one departing Greenford at 22:17. The aim is principally to monitor the performance of the trackside battery banks.
How many drivers are involved in that?
Wyrleybart
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Guessing at least four but maybe six of seven. Each driver will need a pnb somewhere within two hours of the midpoint of their diagram.
Have the current tests not be run by RailAdventure (Or at least the paths are theirs). In my opinion GWR would be unwise to take staff away from services when they are currently facing significant disruption from staff shortages.
Only three drivers, all from Rail Adventure. Taking turns during the day, allowing for PNBs.
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Does anyone know why 230001 is still using a class number applicable to Diesel electric traction? I know it’s a test unit at this stage, but if the trial is successful will the future permanent stock get a new number?
norbitonflyer
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Probably because no-one has got round to changing it. There may be regulatory hoops to go through to introduce a new class. I understand that is why the re-engined class 73s didn't get a new classification (although most of them will rarely, if ever, operate off the live rail again). Normally such a drastic re-engineering would have done so (see classes 21/29, 30/31, 47/57, or 56/69).
Even quite minor engine/transmission variants used to mean a new class - see classes 08/10, 24/25, 26/27, 44/45/46, or 47/48.
Anyway, as a self-powered unit with electric transmission, one could argue it still fits in the 2xx range. If it is electric, it's a live rail one (like the 777s) so could be numbered in the 4xx or 5xx series - probably not the 7xx series as it could not be converted easily to take power from the overhead.
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Training of GWR drivers is planned to start in September to avoid the peak summer leave period.
No doubt when computers were far less widespread it was much more important to have such differences immediately apparent on the loco / associated paperwork.
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I've just put another video of 230001 in the Photography forum if anyone would like to have a look (you'll have to scroll down a bit to find it):
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Fast Charge Battery-Electric Train Trial
This is currently (June 2024) underway in west London It uses 230 001 - a former London Underground D stock train. To simulate a real-world application this test train shadows the West Ealing - Greenford diesel passenger service, stopping at stations etc but it is not carrying passengers.
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I've just put another video of 230001 in the Photography forum if anyone would like to have a look (you'll have to scroll down a bit to find it):
Fast Charge Battery-Electric Train Trial
This is currently (June 2024) underway in west London It uses 230 001 - a former London Underground D stock train. To simulate a real-world application this test train shadows the West Ealing - Greenford diesel passenger service, stopping at stations etc but it is not carrying passengers.
Is anyone able to help me with the location of 230001, when is on trials on the Greenford-West Ealing branch. Many thanks in advance.
Sorry, meant when it is not on trials
Sorry, meant when it is not on trials
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It’s been sat at Reading Traincare recently, or at least was up to Saturday.