northernbelle
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From memory GW01 is stored alongside the access road into the depot itself. It's not accessible to the public though - you might catch a glimpse when passing on the main lines.
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GwR HSTs to be stood down
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TT-ONR-NRN
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Sorry when were 43092-094 withdrawn? Someone reported in 2023 New Haulages having 43093 in only late May.
irish_rail
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They haven't been withdrawn.
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TT-ONR-NRN
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Oh yes, I read 43096’s last post incorrectly. Whoops.
50002Superb
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Ok, thank you
REVUpminster
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43098/43040 is replacing a failed IET on 1A81 1055 Paignton-Paddington. The usual IET left Paddington 0703 and failed at Reading.
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It looks like a straight set swap at Exeter and 43098 + 43040 then carries on with 800312s Castle replacement diagram (2U16)
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P76934/2023-06-19/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P76934/2023-06-19/detailed
REVUpminster
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It was the 0703 1C70 Paddington Paignton that failed at Reading. The Castle came from Bristol empty to Taunton then passenger 1Z70 to Paignton. I watched it go through Dawlish. It should go back as 1A81 to Paddington.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
I've just relooked and see what you mean.
Realtime Trains | 1A81 1055 Paignton to London Paddington | 19/06/2023
Real-time train running information for 1A81 1055 departure from Paignton to London Paddington on 19/06/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
I've just relooked and see what you mean.
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Ashley Hill
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Presumably it did not work through to Paddington but would have set swapped somewhere en route. How far up to London are the 2+4 sets cleared for? And nore importantly, how many drivers can take them as far as London now?
Annetts key
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As far as I know, they don’t normally go beyond North Somerset Junction (just to the east of Bristol Temple Meads), or beyond Westerleigh Junction in the up direction towards London.
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Common sense would say get them cleared to Castle Cary/Westbury, would be a useful service during Glastonbury to avoid changing at Bristol for a local train for people coming down from the north.
Snow1964
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They have occasionally been routed via Castle Cary, Westbury, Bath during diversions. Might have stopped few months ago.
Cross Country also have this as a diversion route too, but haven't seen a XC HST for ages, (22x nowadays)
irish_rail
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Pretty much all drivers at Exeter and Plymouth sign 2+4s so plenty of crews who can take them to Paddington. I'm unsure why it is that they are presumably banned from going all the way, seems daft when they are not so different from a few years ago, albeit with a lower top speed (100mph). Wouldnt lose time on b and h , but may lose a minute or so between Reading and Paddington. Maybe its the fear it would be swarmed by enthusiasts if it happened and therefore wouldn't be room for normals?
Anonymous10
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It would be a 4 carriage train so probably similar to why they avoid single turbos, which is to say overcrowding.
Ashley Hill
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AIUI as they are now class 255s they would need clearance and platform height /step/distance tests as the doors are now different.
Similar capacity to a 5 car IET which they have no problem running on the route frequently.
Are the steps not still in the same place?
AFAIK no! the frames and bogies are the same as is the door ride height.
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Anybody know the current state of play with 43093 and 43172 please? Lead to believe they are still in the operational pool but seemingly not well used
Class91Joe
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Don't think it's been posted on here, so just in case some don't already know... 43005, 041 and 171 have been sent for scrap by road to Newport Sims (each heavily stripped) on July 4th, 5th and 6th respectively.
With thanks to @winsaw for posting the diagrams I probably had my final rides on a HST, at least on the mainline.
Initially planned for yesterday but when at 09:00 I checked on https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/ I found the 2U14 was cancelled.
Today at 09:15 running on time and the 2C69 had left Cardiff on time.
As staying in Torbay with a Devon Day Ranger my plan was 2U14 Newton Abott to Tiverton Parkway timetabled arrival 10:58 then 2C69 timetabled arrival 11:08 to Plymouth. The 2U14 was 3 minutes down at Newton Abott but with 6 minutes allowed at Exeter departed on schedule. The 2C69 was on schedule.
Looking now at https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/ to get the numbers I see the 2U14 did get to 5 minutes down between Hemerdon and Ivybridge then was terminated at Bristol with a train fault (M8). Other than into Bristol it kept to time. Following on the 2C79 started at Exeter, the reason given an issue with the train crew (TG). 2U14 shows as 43040 and 43098 while 2C79 as 43172 and 43192 so the set swapped.
2C69 was 43194 and 43027.
Aside from the big banks e.g. Hemerdon can the Castle sets keep to time on one power car?
The sets are tired although both carriages and seats I was in were tidy. Similarly even with the power car upgrades they are neither fuel efficient or environmentally friendly. To me a more pleasent experience than the IET I returned from Plymouth on. The current seats are comfortable just large combined with most seating being airline. I understand the safety issues with the original seats but if as the Chiltern hauled stock I prefer the more open environment.
I could not get the wi-fi to log-in. I got the GWR home page and a couple of pages from it but nothing else. I did manange to connect later in an IET.
Initially planned for yesterday but when at 09:00 I checked on https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/ I found the 2U14 was cancelled.
Today at 09:15 running on time and the 2C69 had left Cardiff on time.
As staying in Torbay with a Devon Day Ranger my plan was 2U14 Newton Abott to Tiverton Parkway timetabled arrival 10:58 then 2C69 timetabled arrival 11:08 to Plymouth. The 2U14 was 3 minutes down at Newton Abott but with 6 minutes allowed at Exeter departed on schedule. The 2C69 was on schedule.
Looking now at https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/ to get the numbers I see the 2U14 did get to 5 minutes down between Hemerdon and Ivybridge then was terminated at Bristol with a train fault (M8). Other than into Bristol it kept to time. Following on the 2C79 started at Exeter, the reason given an issue with the train crew (TG). 2U14 shows as 43040 and 43098 while 2C79 as 43172 and 43192 so the set swapped.
2C69 was 43194 and 43027.
Aside from the big banks e.g. Hemerdon can the Castle sets keep to time on one power car?
The sets are tired although both carriages and seats I was in were tidy. Similarly even with the power car upgrades they are neither fuel efficient or environmentally friendly. To me a more pleasent experience than the IET I returned from Plymouth on. The current seats are comfortable just large combined with most seating being airline. I understand the safety issues with the original seats but if as the Chiltern hauled stock I prefer the more open environment.
I could not get the wi-fi to log-in. I got the GWR home page and a couple of pages from it but nothing else. I did manange to connect later in an IET.
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Liam L
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43158 & 43022 with a rake of MK3s moved to Kings Norton today. Both debranded.
Anyone got any ideas as to why? I believe the move was operated by rail adventure
Anyone got any ideas as to why? I believe the move was operated by rail adventure
smithy_37688
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022/158 storage apparently. Rumours are going around they've been acquired, but apparently stop over at King's Norton and then moving onto Ely for storage.
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Could it be that Rail Adventure are going to strip them of parts at King's Norton before sending them off to Ely? Seems very strange to send them all the way to the West Mids just for a stopover
Liam L
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The other paths have come through the west midlands on their way to Ely.
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Why is it strange? Where are RailAdventure’s operations based?
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Silly railway
