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Clearly more patience than me with the long waits! The mission certainly seems to be going well, despite the timetable issues. Hopefully after the December timetable change it will get easier!
The service intervals and calling patterns are a bit nuts East of Leeds. Almost impossible to get a rhythm going pretty much anywhere to be honest. So much rare bits of track too so the next 2 days in Yorkshire will have to reflect a bit of that too. UTtracker have a nifty feature which shows gains and losses for the current/next timetable period and it looks like Kirton Lindsay and Brigg will return in December. I will not be bored analysing a bunch of that dat i think and may shape what i do this year for losses - and leave some new cool stuff for next.All the long festers caused by the reduced timetable.
Good news on getting Eastrington into your book along with some other awkward Yorkshire stations
I would probably have gone a bit nuts by now if i hadn't worked out i needed something to do on the longer layovers - forced or otherwise. Its years since i bought any books but it looks like i have another (old) new thing to help while away the waits. See my reply to Kite above - UTtracker has published the gains/losses with the December timetable and will bear some close scrutiny.Clearly more patience than me with the long waits! The mission certainly seems to be going well, despite the timetable issues. Hopefully after the December timetable change it will get easier!
Crewe | Depart | 6.16 | ***** | AW | stations | platforms | ||
Sandbach | Arrive | 6.21 | P2 | AW | wait 37m | completed | completed | |
Sandbach | Depart | 6.58 | P3 | AW | ||||
Holmes Chapel | Arrive | 7.02 | P1 | AW | wait 25m | |||
Holmes Chapel | Depart | 7.27 | P2 | AW | ||||
Crewe | Arrive | 7.39 | ***** | AW | drive + wait | |||
Relocate to | ****** | ***** | ***** | ***** | 111m | |||
Chester | Depart | 9.30 | ***** | AW | ||||
Gobowen | Arrive | 10.04 | P1 | AW | wait 41m | |||
Gobowen | Depart | 10.45 | P2 | AW | ||||
Wrexham General | Arrive | 11.03 | P2 | AW | wait 24m | |||
Wrexham General | Depart | 11.27 | P4 | AW | ||||
Wrexham Central | Arrive | 11.29 | Single | AW | wait 3m | |||
Wrexham Central | Depart | 11.32 | Single | AW | 1 | 1 | ||
Wrexham General | Arrive | 11.33 | P4 | AW | wait 18m | |||
Wrexham General | Depart | 11.51 | P1 | AW | ||||
Chirk | Arrive | 12.04 | P2 | AW | wait 52m | |||
Chirk | Depart | 12.56 | P1 | AW | 1 | 2 | ||
Ruabon | Arrive | 13.01 | P1 | AW | wait 60m | |||
Ruabon | Depart | 14.01 | P2 | AW | 1 | 2 | ||
Gobowen | Arrive | 14.12 | P1 | AW | wait 32m | |||
Gobowen | Depart | 14.44 | P2 | AW | ||||
Chester | Arrive | 15.18 | ***** | AW |
The inevitable long waits that are encountered are certainly less taxing than before, but i also like to get off station when the "Goldilocks Zone" weather turns up, and have a good explore too.Good news that you have plenty to keep you occupied on your future travels then! A rather productive little trip there, even if it was a lot of time hanging around with a book.
I have to say, I'm wondering what your 1,000th station will be!
I was saving P3 at General for when i do the bottom half of the Borderlands line for which i have a Sunday itinerary planned, as this gives 2 bites of the P3 cherry to go for and the timetable for once is relatively kind with the awkward timings normally seen at Hawarden as an early opportunity to do it with a decent gap between services is possible. P3 also has a weekday service from/to Shrewsbury i believe and that might be a nice one to do on a quiet day - though i haven't looked into this yet.I suspect the odds of Teesside Airport station reopening are very low, if anything it will be like those stations between Stone & Stoke and be a replacement minibus if anybody kicks up a big fuss.
Agreed about doing those stations between Shrewsbury & Wrexham being mad on a Saturday, all the overcrowding!
I guess you will be back at Wrexham General to do platform 3 at some point. From memory has at least 2 departures to the south (one around the time of the southbound WAG as that skips the 3 stations and around the time Avanti are meant to run the Wrexham terminator voyager. Plus one arrival late at night from the Bidston line.
The inevitable long waits that are encountered are certainly less taxing than before, but i also like to get off station when the "Goldilocks Zone" weather turns up, and have a good explore too.
Hmm.. I haven't really considered what my 1000th station might be as of now. I am already past 2000 for the number of platforms completed at completed stations so thats a thing thats gone already. I also have maybe 150 or so other platforms completed at stations i'm still not finished with. Hmm... It will be either a random station or it will be something like Birmingham New St with its 49 variants. I only have 1 of these left to do so maybe... Not going to overthink it for sure.
I very much like clearing goals too but it would need some pretty nifty planning to get a specific station completed as 1000. Something to consider...Fair game, it's definitely something that shouldn't be dwelled upon too much. I'm approximately 10 miles short this morning of 10,000 lifetime cycle miles (I've lost some data in a farce with Google Docs sadly) since 23rd February 2020, and as the weather is nice today here I plan to clear that goal today.
I have been trying to decide how to achieve this goal, by which I mean which cycle do I take out today and what route will I take? Will I clear 10,000 somewhere then ride back, or will it be a route that ends on 10,000 (or just over) at the end of the ride? Of course, it shouldn't really matter as the main thing is that it's enjoyable, but I'd like to know roughly where I clear the goal!
One thing I am sure of, and that is that it must be very local, as it's where I started cycling in 2020 and it feels only right to clear 10,000 here. The main reason why I'm detailing my train of thought here is that I can see why all the planning of your platforming etc is fun and engaging!
Bromsgrove p1 I hope will turn up without too many issues come the timetable change! Wellingborough seems to be a huge thorn in your paw, and that tunnel at Wymington annoys me as it is the only PSUL bit in that part of the world that I want. I've gone for it in the past and went mainline instead, which is most frustrating. You know, this reminds me that I have a number of 222s still to score for haulage, I may have to start looking into changing that!
Wrexham p3, isn't that Shrewsbury service only at silly o'clock in the morning and evening?
I don't have an up to date track map as the 4th line went in after it was published so i can't check, but it sounds right. I know P4 can be used to access the up Fast because i have done it..I believe if the train goes into P3 from the south at Wellingborough then it has to use the tunnel. I guess the route via Market Harbrough is closed again with the intercity units going on a tour of Corby
Wrexham p3, isn't that Shrewsbury service only at silly o'clock in the morning and evening?
Thanks for that, I've learnt something new today!
The morning one runs after the Holyhead - Cardiff WAG which runs non stop between Wrexham & Shrewsbury, and the evening connects with the Avanti Wrexham terminator (when that runs) to allow any passengers for stations beyond Wrexham an extra service towards Shrewsbury.
Selby | Depart | 6.50 | ***** | NT | stations | platforms | ||
Broomfleet | Arrive | 7.12 | P1 | NT | wait 65m | completed | completed | |
Broomfleet | Depart | 8.17 | P2 | NT | 1 | 2 | ||
Gilberdyke | Arrive | 8.21 | P2 | NT | wait 4m | |||
Gilberdyke | Depart | 8.25 | P1 | NT | ||||
Hessle | Arrive | 8.44 | P2 | NT | wait 17m | |||
Hessle | Depart | 9.01 | P1 | NT | 1 | 2 | ||
Kirk Sandall | Arrive | 9.49 | P1 | NT | wait 22m | |||
Kirk Sandall | Depart | 10.11 | P2 | NT | 1 | 2 | ||
Thorne North | Arrive | 10.22 | P2 | NT | wait 78m | |||
Thorne North | Depart | 11.40 | P1 | NT | 1 | 2 | ||
Doncaster | Arrive | 12.00 | P0 | NT | wait 5m | |||
Doncaster | Depart | 12.05 | P0 | NT | ||||
Hull | Arrive | 13.12 | P2 | NT | wait 90m | |||
Hull | Depart | 14.42 | P2 | NT | 1 | 6 | ||
Saltmarshe | Arrive | 15.21 | P2 | NT | wait 78m | |||
Saltmarshe | Depart | 16.39 | P1 | NT | 1 | 2 | ||
Gilberdyke | Arrive | 16.44 | P1 | NT | wait 17m | |||
Gilberdyke | Depart | 17.01 | P2 | NT | ||||
Selby | Arrive | 17.28 | ***** | NT | drive + wait | |||
Relocate to | ****** | ***** | ***** | ***** | 67 mins | |||
Knottingley | Depart | 18.35 | ***** | NT | ||||
Hensall | Arrive | 18.46 | P1 | NT | wait 76m | |||
Hensall | Depart | 20.02 | P2 | NT | 1 | 2 | ||
Knottingley | Arrive | 20.14 | ***** | NT |
Micklefield | Depart | 6.37 | ***** | NT | stations | platforms | ||
Selby | Arrive | 6.53 | P3b | NT | wait 94m | completed | completed | |
Selby | Depart | 8.27 | P3a | NT | ||||
South Milford | Arrive | 8.36 | P2 | NT | wait 47m | |||
South Milford | Depart | 9.23 | P1 | NT | 1 | 2 | ||
Selby | Arrive | 9.31 | P1 | NT | wait 13m | |||
Selby | Depart | 9.44 | P2 | TP | ||||
Leeds | Arrive | 10.05 | P16a | TP | wait 13m | |||
Leeds | Depart | 10.18 | P7a | NT | ||||
York | Arrive | 10.51 | P6 | NT | wait 16m | |||
York | Depart | 11.07 | P6 | NT | ||||
Micklefield | Arrive | 11.21 | ***** | NT | drive + wait | |||
Relocate to | ****** | ***** | ***** | ***** | 73 mins | |||
Selby | Depart | 12.34 | ***** | NT | ||||
York | Arrive | 12.54 | P1 | NT | wait 50m | |||
York | Depart | 13.44 | P1 | NT | ||||
Selby | Arrive | 14.11 | P1 | NT | wait 21m | |||
Selby | Depart | 14.32 | P2 | NT | ||||
York | Arrive | 14.53 | P1 | NT | wait 23m | |||
York | Depart | 15.16 | P2 | TP | ||||
Malton | Arrive | 15.40 | Single | TP | wait 18m | |||
Malton | Depart | 15.58 | Single | TP | 1 | 1 | ||
Leeds | Arrive | 17.00 | P16 | TP | wait 59m | |||
Leeds | Depart | 17.59 | P17a | NT | ||||
Snaith | Arrive | 18.54 | Single | NT | wait 63m | |||
Snaith | Depart | 19.57 | Single | NT | 1 | 1 | ||
Leeds | Arrive | 20.50 | P13b | NT | wait 28m | |||
Leeds | Depart | 21.18 | P9b | NT | ||||
Dewsbury | Arrive | 21.32 | P2 | NT | wait 13m | |||
Dewsbury | Depart | 21.45 | P1 | NT | ||||
Leeds | Arrive | 22.06 | P15a | NT | wait 34m | |||
Leeds | Depart | 22.40 | P12a | NT | ||||
Selby | Arrive | 23.13 | ***** | NT |
There are not many opportunities for daytime running beyond Castleford in either direction, even in the summer. (Quite a few in the dark still) I am still wondering whether it will be light enough to do the Saturday only Hull to Leeds via Castleford ex Selby 5.22am. I think i have missed the boat this year given sunrise is c.6am at the moment but as it isn't pathed that way from December i may just give it a go in any event. I should see more than last night however. I can always come back another year....Another good day and another station on the Goole line bites the dust.
I've only ever done the line beyond Castleford twice, both times in darkness. Its on my list to revisit (preferably heading towards Castleford) at some point when in daylight.
I suspect it will be a case of trying to do it on a day of engineering works closing the line via Cross Gates
Was this actually announced on the train? Certainly wasn’t the time I tried to go to Snaith and had to put up with Google instead!i knew i had to be back of train to alight at Snaith.
Having done Whitley Bridge and Hensall in the last 10 days prior to Snaith i was asked both times where i was travelling to and having been (almost) caught out by short platforms and is it front or back exit previously, i asked why he was asking - short platform at Snaith was the answer.. Back of train to set down and front of train to alight. I think the 150 could have fit on but the network deem otherwise. Certainly the placement of the signal on the platform for the return would be very sporty to allow this. It would have been easier to announce maybe but would you trust the onboard comms on these old boneshakers? Maximum of 3 people to ask anyway after Knottingley hahaWas this actually announced on the train? Certainly wasn’t the time I tried to go to Snaith and had to put up with Google instead!
A good point about possible diverts. I had a quick scout around for news on the project but its all gone a bit quiet, so probably not anytime soon. The only one of the three Leeds based new stations that i can find definite news about is the new White Rose station, which i think has started ti eb built, and should replace Cottingley eventually. There certainly seems to be a plethora of new stations in the mix at the moment so at least i will have something to keep me occupied in future years too.Isn't there meant to be a new station between Cross Gates & Garforth (Thorpe Park [which will just cause confusion with tourists!]?) that might get some diverts.
Interesting that you are on the Skeggy 180 on Saturday, as I'm planning to be on it as well, with a walk later in the day (unless the forecast changes from 'light showers' to 'heavy rain') from Boston towards Hubberts Bridge to inspect the rebuilt platform
I think i might still get it under my belt whilst it is still in the timetable and make a return visit if it materialises again in the summer. At least i know its a possibility. I think sunrise in Leeds is a few minutes ahead but by the time i can return there it will be more like 6.30 so gloomy if i am lucky at best.You've had a busy couple of days there, nicely done with the unusual track too! Sunrise yesterday was at 06:22, so I think you'll miss out on seeing a lot around there if you do the early bird special working. I can't honestly imagine you'll see anything terribly exciting anyway.
I hope your couple of days rest away from the rails have been enjoyable, and good luck with the Skegness line!
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