stevenedin
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I would imagine so being that the new buses will have reduced capacity and those routes are slightly quieter than the likes of the 11, 16, 31 etc.
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I've heard basically the routes the BYDs have done, 8/9/10/23/24/27 etc. Though I imagine they'll stray everywhere given there's going to be 50 of them and the battery use is so good.
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How many blocks featuring peak X routes are there, and of them how many only do a couple of trips? I would think those would be fairly likely to have electrics on them as they have more opportunities to charge during the day.
At Central there are 19 peak running boards in the morning and 18 in the afternoon, if I've got it right. Some of the afternoon ones do stay on for the rest of the day though. This list includes peak trips on non X routes.
This doesn't include the ones for service 1.
| AM X47 Cammo > Fredrick Street 9 Hanover Street > Kings Buildings | |
| AM X31 Rosewell > Edinburgh 9 Hanover Street > Kings Buildings | |
| AM 10 Ocean Terminal > Bonaly > Ocean Terminal > Bonaly > Ocean Terminal | |
| AM 7 Royal Infirmary > Newhaven > Royal Infirmary | |
| AM 11 Western Harbour > Hyvots Bank > Elm Row | |
| AM 11 Kaimes > George Street | |
| AM 12 Leith > Holyrood 14 Duddingston Crossroads > Elm Row | |
| AM 15 Elm Row > Bush > Tollcross > Bush > Elm Row | |
| AM 15 Elm Row > Bush > Elm Row | |
| AM 16 Elm Row > Torphin > Silverknowes | |
| AM 22 Granton > Gyle > Granton | |
| AM 29 Silverknowes > Gorebridge X29 Gorebridge > Edinburgh 34 Edinburgh > Heriot-Watt | |
| AM 46 Rosewell > Polton 31 Polton Mill > East Craigs | |
| AM X33 Birkenside > Fountainbridge 34 Fountainbridge > Heriot-Watt | |
| AM 47 Queensferry Street > Cammo 47B Cammo > Easter Bush | |
| AM 49 Foot of the Walk > Royal Infirmary | |
| AM X31 Rosewell > Edinburgh | |
| AM 37 Penicuik > Silverknowes > Penicuik X37 Penicuik > Granton | |
| AM X37 Penicuik > Granton | |
| PM 9 Kings Buildings > Hanover Street X31 Edinburgh > Rosewell | |
| PM 9 Kings Buildings > Hanover Street 44 Edinburgh > Balerno | |
| PM 10 Elm Row > Bonaly > Ocean Terminal > Bonaly > Ocean Terminal | |
| PM 11 Elm Row > Fairmilehead X29 Edinburgh > Gorebridge | Mon-Thurs |
| PM X29 Edinburgh > Gorebridge | Fri, Hols |
| PM 15 Elm Row > Easter Bush > Fairmilehead > Western Harbour > Hyvots Bank | |
| PM 46 Polton > Rosewell 15 Bush > Usher Hall X31 Edinburgh > Rosewell | Mon-Thurs |
| PM 15 Bush > Usher Hall X31 Edinburgh > Rosewell | Fri, Hols |
| PM 16 Elm Row > Torphin > Silverknowes > Torphin > Silverknowes > Torphin | |
| PM 22 Granton > Gyle > Granton > Gyle > Granton > Gyle > Granton > Gyle > Granton > Gyle > Elm Row | |
| PM 24 Royal Infirmary > Fredrick Street X47 Fredrick Street > Cammo | |
| PM X47 Fredrick Street > Cammo 31 East Craigs > Bonnyrigg > Elm Row | |
| PM 31 East Craigs > Polton Mill > East Craigs > Polton Mill > Elm Row | |
| PM 47 Queensferry Street > Cammo > Penicuik 47B Penicuik > Cammo 47 Cammo > Penicuik > Cammo > Penicuik > Elm Row | |
| PM X31 Edinburgh > Rosewell | |
| PM X37 Granton > Penicuik | |
| PM X37 Granton > Penicuik | |
| PM X47 Fredrick Street > Cammo 47 Cammo > Penicuik > Cammo > Penicuik > Cammo > Penicuik |
The morning Central X44 which changes onto a 24 now also continues as a 7 for the rest of the day, hence why it is not listed. There is also an X31 that changes to a 37, and a X47 that changes to a 23.
In the afternoon, the Central 34/X33 comes off the 47.
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Cross linking of services can be determined by the trip numbers shown on Bustimes. A block of trips usually continues in sequence when the vehicle moves to a different route.
stantheman
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I noted a lot of training bus activity in Currie recently. Is this to do with new Barnton service?
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Resuwen
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Still haven't managed to see a pic of a BZL!
Clearly nobody has one that they can publicly share yet. No doubt as soon as a photo appears, people will be climbing over eachother to post it here. In the meantime, it's best to wait and see.
A lot of hard work put into that.
roadierway77
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I have a query regarding Lothian's moquette and I was wondering if anybody here had an answer. Recently I've travelled on two buses that had seats fitted with Lothian's modern moquette that as far as I'm aware have never been with Lothian. One was 131D38412, ex-SN13CHL, an Enviro400 which was originally with First London and then Tower Transit and is now with Ashbourne Connect in Ireland, and the other was AJ58PZO, an Enviro200 MCV Evolution new to South Wales Transport and then passing to Uno, now with Squarepeg. Is there a reason these vehicles have seats fitted with Lothian's modern moquette? Is it perhaps a type that is easily available or cheap?
It's one of many moquette's available by Camira Fabrics. It's not Lothian's own moquette design.
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Lots of buses doing unusual things yesterday because of the Edinburgh Marathon; unfortunately I didn't get any pictures.
Towards the evening I noticed a lot of buses on services 26 and 44 coming from Musselburgh towards the city centre but there didn't seem to be one single destination on the screens; most were showing one of City Centre, Waterloo Place, Waverley, St Andrew Square, Princes Street, or Not In Service. I'm surprised that Lothian didn't set a standard screen to be used.
My question is: were these just run as duplicates of the existing 26 and 44s thus not needing any additional registration?
Towards the evening I noticed a lot of buses on services 26 and 44 coming from Musselburgh towards the city centre but there didn't seem to be one single destination on the screens; most were showing one of City Centre, Waterloo Place, Waverley, St Andrew Square, Princes Street, or Not In Service. I'm surprised that Lothian didn't set a standard screen to be used.
My question is: were these just run as duplicates of the existing 26 and 44s thus not needing any additional registration?
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These would have just been duplicates; mainly to shuttle participants and spectators rather than picking up en route. The standard 26 service was running part route Levenhall only.
What did cause chaos was a broken down Bright Bus on Princes Street by the galleries with a tram stuck behind it. Buses had to run non stop past the stops at Scott Monument to avoid blocking the road entirely. Around 3.5-4 hours in total it took to wait for recovery and be towed away.
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Ah right, thanks.
I saw a Bright Bus with a tram immediately behind it and wondered if the tram had hit it, so your comment clears that up, thanks.
There were also several taxis double parking outside The Balmoral and blocking the road westbound for a while too.
It wouldn't be a good look but if Bright Bus vehicles kept braking down in key locations and that disproportionately affected Lothian Buses and caused a loss of reputation or revenue, I wonder if Lothian could do anything legal-y to get compensation?
Only non Tranent journeys.
I'd doubt it, but it could be a factor a Traffic Commissioner (TC) could look at if at a fleet wide level any particular operator was having persistent maintenance issues
That is if a TC could be found willing to actually appear to do anything.
Is there any reason why X47s are reguarly running through Cramond and not direct via Queensferry Road? I assume driver error? 694 did this today.
On another note, Lothian have started hinting towards their new app on X (formerly Twitter) and Facebook. The X post is here.
On another note, Lothian have started hinting towards their new app on X (formerly Twitter) and Facebook. The X post is here.
TheEastCoaster
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Reckon this will be something to connect Lothian and Eve Coaches together?
buslad1988
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The driver would have been instructed to do this by control. Often it can be quicker to travel through Crammond due to congestion on Queensferry Road (hence why the standard 47 now does this all the time). It’s just to keep buses moving and get people where they need to be quicker.
I would assume it's combining ticketing and bus tracking in one app (hence 'Buy Plan Travel'). Given they've tagged Urban Things I'd suggest that the app will be very similar to the ones that Newport Bus, Ipswich Bus among other operators have.
It would be a good opportunity to incorporate Eve Coaches routes though, if possible at this time.
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LBObserver
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The little video has Lothian and Edinburgh Trams logos, maybe a single places for joint ticketing or tap tap cap across both?
Blindtraveler
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Well, if it's a new app, I hope it's a damn site better than the current one which personally I find dreadful and clunky and that's before I get started on accessibility issues with it for screen reader users
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There is a rail replacement service this weekend between Edinburgh and Kirknewton. Will this be Lothian operated and does anyone know it gets from Curriehill to Kirknewton?
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The new app will combine the journey planner and mTickets app. There are some details within this video including someone from Lothian discussing the app and their operational challenges.
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If it’s Lothian it would be Motorcoaches operated, and likely up the back road between Kirknewton and Balerno then along the A71
Lothian included Eve Coaches representation in this year's driver of the year competition.
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Lothian crowns a new Bus Driver of the Year - Lothian Buses
Lothian has crowned a new Driver of the Year following its annual Bus Driver of the Year final at the Royal Highland Centre in Ingliston on Tuesday 28 May. 17 finalists from across the Lothian Group competed on the day, excelling in three specially designed challenges – a theory test, a...
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Baileygirl
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Why was there no one from Lothian Motorcoaches?Lothian included Eve Coaches representation in this year's driver of the year competition.
Lothian crowns a new Bus Driver of the Year - Lothian Buses
Lothian has crowned a new Driver of the Year following its annual Bus Driver of the Year final at the Royal Highland Centre in Ingliston on Tuesday 28 May. 17 finalists from across the Lothian Group competed on the day, excelling in three specially designed challenges – a theory test, a...
I'd guess because they are exclusively coach drivers?
Eve has a mix hence included?
Auld reekie
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There is a new route from Balerno to Cramond so that could be part of the route.