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Megabus to Barcelona for masochists

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Megabus now runs daily London-Barcelona services with a journey time of 24-25 hours. En route there are calls at Paris, Bessines-sur-Gartempe, Limoges, Brive-la-Gaillarde and Toulouse.

According to this Spanish article fares start from €1 - doesn't say whether a sleeper vehicle will be used.

I'm not sure how popular this will be as there are so many flights to Barcelona from all over the UK already including budget airlines, and the coach journey takes 13 times as long!
 
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Coach travel is not very competitive when compared to low cost flights booked well in advance, but for travelling at short notice then there can be a huge fare difference. There are a lot of low cost flights between the UK and Poland but there are also a lot of coaches too. Many people use the coach on that route if they can't get a cheap flight.

Sleeper coaches are not used on any international Megabus services, AFAIK.
 

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Standard coaches (in the form of VH Altanos and/or Plaxton Eliteis) are used.

Demand has been so strong since the launch that another vehicle has already been added to the service apparently.
 

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The coaches used are Plaxton Elite interdecks 63 plate and left hand drive 13 plate Vanhool interdecks, Megabus took them off the over night Plymouth-London service and put on older Panthers, hope we get the inter decks back when brand new ones come out.
 

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Don't know anything about demand, sorry.

The vehicles are based at Rugby depot, but will only be there once every 4 or 5 days.
 

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If it is cheap enough there will be a market for it. I've done far worse in South America. That said Megabus from London to Liverpool wasn't the greatest.
 

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Reminds me of years ago (late 80's - early 90's) with Blueline Coaches and Siesta Travel (or something like that) doing coach holidays from the North East of England to Southern Spain. A bargain it was too compared to the price of flights at the time, especially a family of 4 or 5 people.

Sounds like a similar deal to be honest except the holiday is not included.
 

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Reminds me of years ago (late 80's - early 90's) with Blueline Coaches and Siesta Travel (or something like that) doing coach holidays from the North East of England to Southern Spain. A bargain it was too compared to the price of flights at the time, especially a family of 4 or 5 people.

Sounds like a similar deal to be honest except the holiday is not included.

It was indeed Siesta Travel of Middlesbrough.

However, BlueLine were the UK express subsidiary of Trimdon Motor Services. It was another, Zebra Holidays, that did the Spanish bucket trips. That said, there was a lot of vehicle sharing so understandable you thought it was BlueLine.
 

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Also, don't forget that the coach stops at Paris and Toulouse on the way, so there could be passengers wanting to travel between London and Toulouse, and between Paris/Toulouse and Barcelona.
 

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Fair enough. Is the demand stronger in either direction and is there much end-to-end use?

Also, where are the vehicles based?

As with the coaches to Poland, Slovakia etc it's not just the price of the ticket, many passengers take a lot of heavy luggage back home and the coach is ideal for this.
 

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It was indeed Siesta Travel of Middlesbrough.

And still is! Sun Travel of Ferryhill were another, it was the only chance of us getting abroad.

The last time I did it was May 1996, to L'Estartit and was around 23 hours travel each way. It was 17 days altogether including travel, in a self catering apartment only a couple of minutes from the beach for £88. Would have been one of these or similar....

https://www.flickr.com/photos/trickyfield/7921949628/
 
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Don't know anything about demand, sorry.

The vehicles are based at Rugby depot, but will only be there once every 4 or 5 days.

It would seem that the route between Paris and Barcelona is being used for "local" travel and also connections to northern Europe. Now twice daily with apparently loadings considered as excellent. I hop on planes and trains like I go to the coffee machine, but some prefer endless roads (and a coffee machine). Megabus, just the name inspires.
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It would seem that the route between Paris and Barcelona is being used for "local" travel and also connections to northern Europe. Now twice daily with apparently loadings considered as excellent. I hop on planes and trains like I go to the coffee machine, but some prefer endless roads (and a coffee machine). Megabus, just the name inspires.

No idea who else, if anyone, runs from Barcelona to say Paris, but Eurolines does international journeys. Think "Eurolines", "Megabus" which is biger and cheaper? I have nothing to do with Megabus, but it is a brand which will transform Europe, just as Ryanair or easyJet have. Can I buy shares please?
 

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If you want shares in Megabus, then you'll need to invest in Stagecoach. Unless depots can be established in Europe however, further expansion will be limited.
 

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If you want shares in Megabus, then you'll need to invest in Stagecoach. Unless depots can be established in Europe however, further expansion will be limited.

Really? Stellios, don't bother to wake up, too late in my opinion.

Brian and his wife have it made. It is so blindingly obvious. Megabus.

Surely it beats easyBus. Or does it? Easy?
 

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There are 1.8 million passengers between London Gatwick/Heathrow and Barcelona every year (plus more from Luton and Stansted) - the coach will only take so much of this market, especially when the fares are similar but the journey times are so different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona–El_Prat_Airport#Statistics

They only need to take a tiny proportion of the market to fill two coaches a day, aside from the fact that many people on the coach will only be doing part of the route. The same applies even to more 'sensible' journeys like London to Birmingham. If you think how many people take the train and drive that journey in an hour, compare that to the number of coach seats available.
 

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Having done Devon to the Costa Brava on a high spec Irizar Century about 20 years ago I don't want to do it again!
 

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I had a megabus London - Barcelona mid -September return in my basket for £2.50 a couple of weeks ago when the new services were loaded but I decided it was just too much travel to spend one or two days there.

The timetable does include a break in a Paris coach park of between one and a half and three and a half hours but there could still be up to 15 hours with no opportunity to leave the coach. Most megabus services have no scheduled comfort/refreshment breaks though the drivers who smoke sometimes make a short stop at motorway services. Generally they only stop for a driver change or to buy fuel and passengers have to remain on board.
 

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I took Eurolines from London - Prague and back some time in 2000, IIRC. It was a year or two before 'Go' (BA's attempt to kill Easyjet at any cost) started flying from Stansted so it was the only budget route. 26 hours, IIRC.

Re: Megabus, the AM departure from London gives you a couple of hours in the early evening in Paris. The Porte Maillot bus station is the same place you can catch the bus to Beauvais for Ryanair flights. If you exit the bus station and walk round the big Palais du Congrés (congress centre) there are plenty of reasonable bistros for dinner.
 

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Is there a non Daily Mail link with this story?

Several. Here's one: http://www.digitaljournal.com/life/...-in-spain-when-driver-arrested/article/396117

For those linkistically challenged......

Girona - Sixty-two tourists were en route from London to Spain Sunday, when they were left stranded in Girona for seven hours after their driver was arrested. He was accused of falsifying his travel documents, which meant he was not allowed to carry passengers.

Passengers on the UK cheap bus service Megabus went through quite the ordeal, having to stay overnight in Girona while traveling from London to Barcelona via France.

According to the Catalonia police, the Mossos d'Esquadra, they were carrying out a routine check at Maçanet de la Selva close to Girona on the AP-7 motorway. Officials say the British driver of the bus had falsified the travel documents he needed by law to carry passengers and they arrested him.
Megabus released a statement denying this, and told The Local: "Our driver had the correct documentation and identification for his journey and was well within his legal driving hours. There appears to have been a technical issue with the way the journey was being recorded."

Due to the incident, the passengers were left at a service station, because police officers allegedly blocked access to any alternative means of transport. An official statement from Megabus said that they arranged for replacement vehicles with a Spanish coach operator, to allow the tourists to continue on their journey, adding, "However we are concerned that local Spanish police prevented passengers from using these vehicles, resulting in a significant and unnecessary delay to their journey."

As the passengers could not utilize another form of transport they had to find their own accommodation for the night. However, Megabus has agreed to pay this expense, saying, "Our team kept in touch with passengers by email throughout the night and attempted to find accommodation for them which unfortunately was not possible."

"We advised that we would cover all costs for passengers who made their own arrangements for onward travel. We will also be issuing a full refund and providing complimentary return travel for all customers affected," the statement continued.

"We will be raising concerns with the appropriate authorities in Spain about how this situation was handled and the impact on our customers using this service."

The Megabus transport service offers larger coaches than the usual and carries 72 passengers as opposed to the normal 50. Apparently the transport service offers a limited number of seats for as little as €2 ($2.68) with the balance priced according to demand.

Megabus is part of the multinational transport company Stagecoach Group and opened in 2003 in the UK; in 2006 it expanded its services to North America and in 2012, added destinations in continental Europe.
 

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I had a megabus London - Barcelona mid -September return in my basket for £2.50 a couple of weeks ago when the new services were loaded but I decided it was just too much travel to spend one or two days there.

The timetable does include a break in a Paris coach park of between one and a half and three and a half hours but there could still be up to 15 hours with no opportunity to leave the coach. Most megabus services have no scheduled comfort/refreshment breaks though the drivers who smoke sometimes make a short stop at motorway services. Generally they only stop for a driver change or to buy fuel and passengers have to remain on board.

I've got the Megabus to The Netherlands a number of times. And find the 9 hour or so journey not too bad really. But really think a 24 hour journey mostly spent on a coach would be a bit too much for me. Would need a little more comfort breaks along the way(the toilets on coaches aren't ideal, and some of the drivers anyway announce that the onboard toilets are for liquid waste only!!) during the journey. As well as a couple of breaks to get something to eat. And a suitable stop to get a freshen up shower about half way through the journey would be good too.

Also bear in mind that if the coach gets delayed enroute to Paris that would mean less time spent in that coach park.
 

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I notice this route passes through Paris and Toulouse.

We may be travelling to Toulouse in the next few months so was looking at flights to Toulouse and wandered around the Air France site and found at least one flight per hour each way between Paris and Toulouse - so a lot of air passengers. And Toulouse is not easy to get to from Paris by train.
 

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I've got the Megabus to The Netherlands a number of times. And find the 9 hour or so journey not too bad really. But really think a 24 hour journey mostly spent on a coach would be a bit too much for me. Would need a little more comfort breaks along the way(the toilets on coaches aren't ideal, and some of the drivers anyway announce that the onboard toilets are for liquid waste only!!) during the journey. As well as a couple of breaks to get something to eat. And a suitable stop to get a freshen up shower about half way through the journey would be good too.

Also bear in mind that if the coach gets delayed enroute to Paris that would mean less time spent in that coach park.

Yeah in Europe I would probably rather take the plane than the real budget bus options, I'd save up, obviously this is not always possible for everyone. I have taken a couple of bus journies in excess of 24 hours in other parts of the world and the service was amazing if you used the full service product, three meals a day served and with wine with you evening meal. Plus free tea and coffee and loads of rest breaks of a decent length. This would of course not be possible financially in Europe.
 

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The only long European bus ride I'd do now is one to a certain German Festival (which is a bit difficult to get to otherwise from the UK) - the organsier books a 50 seat vehicle and half fills it to give everyone a pair of seats each - Would not like to do it on a rammed Megabus!
 
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