New S7 Underground stock

[Manchester77]

Right wasn't sure about the full line do t get to london much. As part of clearence tests has an S7 been in the mansion house bay or is this going to be decommissioned after the new signalling is in use?

 

[Dstock7080]

As part of clearance tests has an S7 been in the mansion house bay or is this going to be decommissioned after the new signalling is in use?

S7s can't use Mansion House bay, as is.
Under resignalling the bay will become the EB platform, the existing EB will be decommissioned.

 

[Manchester77]

Thanks makes sense doesn't really get much use (if any) now I think

 

[Class377/5]

Its a rare move into the Mansion House bay? I've done it a few times myself, didn't realise it was so rare.

 

[Dstock7080]

One train M-F is due to reverse there and it will see good use this and next weekend.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

4 for scrap in each Sept and Oct.

Is that 4 rakes of 3 units meaning a total of 24 C stock units going over the 2 months ( rather than 4 units )?

 

[Dstock7080]

Is that 4 rakes of 3 units meaning a total of 24 C stock units going over the 2 months ( rather than 4 units )?

As the context in which I wrote the rest of the post was in trains (ie. WIM-ERd 8.) I was continuing to refer to trains.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Thank you; just wanted to be clear.

 

[southern442]

S7s can't use Mansion House bay, as is.
Under resignalling the bay will become the EB platform, the existing EB will be decommissioned.

By decommissioned, do you mean just left there or will they fill it in?

 

[joeykins82]

Saw my first S7 on the southern half of the circle passing through Victoria EB last night at around 2215, complete with "TRAIN ON TEST: DO NOT BOARD THIS TRAIN" stickers inside the door windows.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

That ^^^^^ would probably have been 21303/4 - I observed it doing the Circle tests yesterday.

 

[jon0844]

Saw my first S7 on the southern half of the circle passing through Victoria EB last night at around 2215, complete with "TRAIN ON TEST: DO NOT BOARD THIS TRAIN" stickers inside the door windows.

No doubt full of people wearing orange hi-vis inside? That was the case when I first saw one running on the northern section a long time ago.. and I'm pretty sure most of them had Bombardier written on their back.

 

[joeykins82]

Nah. 2 people in the cab and no-one on board at all.

 

[jopsuk]

If they've already been everywhere, the bits that require hordes of orange jackets will be complete.

 

[Julian G]

Nah. 2 people in the cab and no-one on board at all.

Train operator and instructor operator, these runs are 'Driver Confidence Handling Runs'

 

[Dstock7080]

Saw my first S7 on the southern half of the circle passing through Victoria EB last night at around 2215, complete with "TRAIN ON TEST: DO NOT BOARD THIS TRAIN" stickers inside the door windows.

That ^^^^^ would probably have been 21303/4 - I observed it doing the Circle tests yesterday.

It was actually 21357/58 also being used as T706 passing Victoria 22.21. 21303/04 was T707 at that time King's Cross EB.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Was this the first time they have had two of them running round the Circle at once?

 

[Dstock7080]

Was this the first time they have had two of them running round the Circle at once?

Both paths have been available since 29 July (although one ran 28/7) and have regularly been running.

 

[Dstock7080]

2x S7 to be introduced into passenger service on CIRCLE from Monday with the H&C allocation going up to 11. More trains will be added gradually after this, with the hope of 32 by January.

S7 EMPTY workings should start on the District Line (Olympia/Parsons Green-West Ham) from Wednesday.

 

[spinba11]

Will that be 11 every day?

 

[Dstock7080]

Will that be 11 every day?

Not quite 11 as first thought, apologies!
As from MON 2 Sept:
H&C: M-F: 9, SAT: 10, SUN: 8
Circle: M-F: 2 (3 from 9/9), SAT(from 14/9): 1, SUN: 2 (3 from 15/9)

 

[superdrive1]

Excellent, will have to take a trek into London and do some S7 hunting! Out of interest and if it's able to be answered do we know what the actual paths are for passenger/empty S7 on the Circle Line across the week?

 

[Dstock7080]

Out of interest and if it's able to be answered do we know what the actual paths are for passenger/empty S7 on the Circle Line across the week?

I'm really not sure how to present the large amount of information in a post, table form?

The S7 empty 'runs-as-required' "driver confidence handling paths" are due to continue until 31 October, although now maybe superfluous with the passenger workings starting tomorrow.
T706 M-F:
King’s Cross IR: 1132 1232 1332 1432 1532 2002 2102 2202 2302.
Embankment IR: 1206 1306 1406 1506 2036 2136 2236.
T707 M-F:
Embankment OR: 1148½ 1248½ 1348½ 1448½ 2048½ 2148½.
King’s Cross OR: 1223½ 1323½ 1423½ 1523½ 2123½ 2223½.

Passenger workings from Mon 2 Sept:
T207
HMS2 0506
ALD1 0542
ERd2 0624 0631
ALD4 0707
HMS1 0745 0756
ALD1 0839
ERd2 0915 0920
ALD4 0955
HMS3 1038 1050
ALD1 1127
ERd2 1204 1210
ALD4 1244
HMS3 1319 1331
ALD1 1407
ERd2 1445 1450
ALD4 1524
HMS3 1559 1609
ALD1 1649
ERd2 1724 1730
ALD4 1806
HMS3 1848 1900
ALD1 1937
ERd2 2014 2020
ALD4 2054
HMS1 2129 2139
ALD1 2217
ERd2 2254 2300
ALD4 2334
HMS2 0009
hmd 0017 STOP.

T214
ALD2 0526
HMS2 0604 0611
ALD1 0647
ERd2 0723 0730
ALD4 0806
HMS1 0846 0856
ALD1 0937
ERd2 1013 1020
ALD4 1054
HMS2 1131 1141
ALD1 1217
ERd2 1254 1300
ALD4 1334
HMS1 1409 1421
ALD1 1457
ERd2 1534 1540
ALD4 1614
HMS2 1654 1706
ALD1 1748
ERd2 1824 1830
ALD4 1906
HMS2 1946 1952
ALD1 2028
ERd2 2104 2110
ALD4 2143
HMS3 2219
HMD 2226 STOP.

(sadly not running yet, 0700)

 

[superdrive1]

I'm really not sure how to present the large amount of information in a post, table form?

How you've posted it on the thread is absolutely fine, I'm sure I can work out all the intermediate times out from them based on out of date WTTs I have! Thanks for the info, it is much appreciated! Will probably go out sometime in the next month or so for a look!

Side note: These timings are all for Monday-Friday only correct? Just thought I'd make certain of that!

 

[Amaroussi]

T207 and T214 were not S7 Stock in the morning. I was on T260 for one loop.

 

[southern442]

Excellent, will have to take a trek into London and do some S7 hunting! Out of interest and if it's able to be answered do we know what the actual paths are for passenger/empty S7 on the Circle Line across the week?

Saw one in service today, whilst on the stock they were replacing.

 

[Dstock7080]

A slight surprise today was that T753 21317/318 ran in passenger service on the District Line today, one of the empty workings due to start on Wednesday!

This evening, both T207 & T214 were correctly S7 on the Circle Line.

 

[Manchester77]

I saw on flickr an S7 ran on test to Olympia for the first time in the day today.

What service did the S7s form on the district line I'd imagine it ran to tower hill or was it a wimbleware?

:banana:

 

[OxtedL]

They run to West Ham, theoretically.

Unless things have changed, look for train 753 in this District WTT (from this FOI dump).

 

[Manchester77]

Thank you! Bet that was a bit of a shock for those who'd turned up to see the first circle line S7 passenger service! I guess since an S7 operated the district service then that'll mean that every SSL will have had an S7 in passenger operation.