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New Scottish COVID-19 Restrictions 07/10/2020

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Obviously the public do not think so as last week it was reported from various polls that the percentage now in favour of independence has shot up off the back of her handling of the Covid issue.


Yet if it was me doing the polls on these things independence is the last thing on my mind.

Aren’t polls manipulated or possibly backed by politicial affiliates?
 
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Well that well known "poll soothsayer" Sir John Curtice of Strathclyde University seemed to think it was good quality research last week.
 

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I find this profoundly depressing. Funny how she's only put anywhere up to level 4 after getting Westminster to pay for it. Try doing that if we were independent.

Or waiting for other areas to rise to a similar level to the SNP strongholds of Glasgow & Lanarkshire for political reasons.

If only she came down as hard on Glasgow as she did in Aberdeen cases numbers might have not shot up so far
 

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Polls really are meaningless as they are rarely representative of every single type of person. And if it was taken somewhere like Glasgow, no wonder there is tons of support as it's an SNP, pro independence echo chamber particularly among the student population.
 

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I doubt the polls are wrong, and given demographic factors independence is likely inevitable anyway, so not worth worrying about it.
 

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If independence is inevitable then me and my home country are parting ways sooner than later.
 
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I’m amused by the contradiction that the SNP are very much pro Scotland remaining in the EU* (you know, a large union of nations) yet are so evangelical about cutting the umbilical cord from Westminster.

* I say this as an ardent Remainer who believes Brexit is a ridiculous vanity project
 

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Well that well known "poll soothsayer" Sir John Curtice of Strathclyde University seemed to think it was good quality research last week.


Yes no wonder she is leading in the polls, BBC/BBC Scotland have given her free reign on a near daily slot, I thought the whole point was COVID? Seems like from highlights she goes off track everyday in unrelated things. So why are the BBC not calling a halt to it? I don't see Boris having a daily broadcast now even though as far as we know he could be held up in a fridge somewhere or looking for a ditch!

If independence is inevitable then me and my home country are parting ways sooner than later.


I have been feeling like this for sometime too, even though I visit Newcastle on my annual leave(s) its a break from Scotland and somewhere new (I get the point England may not be as better as Scotland but I rather jump ship.)

Polls really are meaningless as they are rarely representative of every single type of person. And if it was taken somewhere like Glasgow, no wonder there is tons of support as it's an SNP, pro independence echo chamber particularly among the student population.


and only cover a sample of people (who is to say they go for the same people in these polls?)
 

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I have been feeling like this for sometime too, even though I visit Newcastle on my annual leave(s) its a break from Scotland and somewhere new (I get the point England may not be as better as Scotland but I rather jump ship.)
You would be made more than welcome in Newcastle.
 

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You would be made more than welcome in Newcastle.
I have noticed that more when I have came down OK I don't do nightlife lol but in general Newcastle and even York people are friendly and welcoming! I felt guilty a few years ago (might be a bit off topic) but when I mentioned Scotland let alone Dundee, people were OK with me but people knew regarding independence and asking "what have we done wrong" (friendly banter but still it proves a point), I was more scared to say Dundee initially as its a "yes" city and I am basically well the opposite!

Politics (no matter party and on both sides) has caused great damage to people but its OK they walk away from it all but general public between one another have a punch up.
 

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I have noticed that more when I have came down OK I don't do nightlife lol but in general Newcastle and even York people are friendly and welcoming!
I live in York having moved down from Newcastle and yes, both cities are very friendly.
 
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Yes no wonder she is leading in the polls, BBC/BBC Scotland have given her free reign on a near daily slot, I thought the whole point was COVID? Seems like from highlights she goes off track everyday in unrelated things. So why are the BBC not calling a halt to it? I don't see Boris having a daily broadcast now even though as far as we know he could be held up in a fridge somewhere or looking for a ditch!

I don't watch everyday but the prepared statement at the start usually stays pretty solidly on Covid stuff. It tends to drift a bit once the journalists start asking questions as they have a habit of pulling independence and other matters into the briefing to the extent that NS has had to rebuke journalists for that.

I do think it puts NS centrestage a bit too much but its good source of current information and is particularly useful for those without internet accesss
 

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I don't watch everyday but the prepared statement at the start usually stays pretty solidly on Covid stuff. It tends to drift a bit once the journalists start asking questions as they have a habit of pulling independence and other matters into the briefing to the extent that NS has had to rebuke journalists for that.

I do think it puts NS centrestage a bit too much but its good source of current information and is particularly useful for those without internet accesss


Shouldn’t it be then cover what’s important round it up within 15 mins or half an hour then end it?

Why everyday? There is no need for it but had this been Boris and not her hell would break loose had he continued.

Yet in regards of questioning then surely then stick to what’s important?

I thought the BBC was at least reducing it down to either a couple days or less? It’s getting dragged out now anyway.

Regarding those without internet access you could argue it would feature on news bulletins as normal, I wonder how this situation would look like had it been between the 70s-90s? I doubt it would look like a soap opera it has become.
 
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The briefings are all a ploy for NS to get attention, they should be like twice a week. Every day either means she is desperate for press coverage or genuinely thinks that the virus is what we spend every waking minute thinking about. Even when we had really low numbers of cases and a month or so with no deaths in the summer, she still had them basically every day.
 

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The briefings are all a ploy for NS to get attention, they should be like twice a week. Every day either means she is desperate for press coverage or genuinely thinks that the virus is what we spend every waking minute thinking about. Even when we had really low numbers of cases and a month or so with no deaths in the summer, she still had them basically every day.

It's definitely a free party political broadcast for the SNP. Look at all the "evil unionists" furore when the BBC proposed dropping coverage, even though I don't know a single person who can be bothered watching them.
 

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It's definitely a free party political broadcast for the SNP. Look at all the "evil unionists" furore when the BBC proposed dropping coverage, even though I don't know a single person who can be bothered watching them.
Scotland's basically Europe's answer to the USA with such division and politicising every decision made.
 

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As the Scottish COVID 19 restrictions have now bedded in and this thread is now becoming off topic and political its time to draw the discussion to a close.

If there is any significant change to the situation re the restrictions in place in Scotland then please alert a member of forum staff and we will look to have the thread reopened.

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