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Northern Unit Refurbishments

diligentdave

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One of the ex-EMR 156s has recently been reupholstered with blue Northern moquette, but with no additional interior works (panels/carpets etc.).
Because the ex-EMR upholstery is in such a poor state it was decided to overhaul the seats and put them all into Northern moquette. This also includes replacing the seat back grab handles so that the interiors are PRM compliant. There are no other internal works planned on these units (yet).

On another note the ex-WMT 323's have had their repaints started. 323205 at the moment (one vehicle).
 

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They will be coming out separately now it's started. One out one in sort of thing. 323205 is provisionally booked to return on 28th Sept with at the moment another unspecified 323 entering in it's place.
Any ideas when they are due out or to early to say? Would like to see them on the return to Allerton
 

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Not for a while yet. Still needs Northern mods and conversion exams into the Northern maintenance regime to be completed, plus the wheels aren't too good so needs a few tyres.
Any update on the work required to bring 156478 into service yet at Heaton, please, Diligent Dave? Are we likely to see it in use with Northern before the December timetable change? TIA!
 

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Any update on the work required to bring 156478 into service yet at Heaton, please, Diligent Dave? Are we likely to see it in use with Northern before the December timetable change? TIA!
Basically it needs new wheelsets. Availability of final drive gearcases is the national railway issue and this hinders getting spares to undertake this work but yes, it is envisaged that 156478 will be ready for December TT.

They will be coming out separately now it's started. One out one in sort of thing. 323205 is provisionally booked to return on 28th Sept with at the moment another unspecified 323 entering in it's place.
Change of plan. 5th October is the new provisional movement date for 205.
 

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On another note the ex-WMT 323's have had their repaints started. 323205 at the moment (one vehicle).
Is this just a repaint or will they be having a refurbishment like the other half of the 323s? If the 323s are actually going to operate Manchester - Blackpool services then I wouldn't particularly like to be downgraded from plug sockets to absolutely nothing (not even USBs like the Northern refurbed units) on my commute
 

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Is this just a repaint or will they be having a refurbishment like the other half of the 323s? If the 323s are actually going to operate Manchester - Blackpool services then I wouldn't particularly like to be downgraded from plug sockets to absolutely nothing (not even USBs like the Northern refurbed units) on my commute
The ex-WMT 323s have already had the digital mods with USB ports installed.
 

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Is this just a repaint or will they be having a refurbishment like the other half of the 323s? If the 323s are actually going to operate Manchester - Blackpool services then I wouldn't particularly like to be downgraded from plug sockets to absolutely nothing (not even USBs like the Northern refurbed units) on my commute
It's just a repaint. As pointed out, digital mods have already been completed.
 

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The ex-WMT 323s have already had the digital mods with USB ports installed.
It's just a repaint. As pointed out, digital mods have already been completed.
oh fair enough, didn’t realise as the photos I saw I couldn’t find any USBs on them. Will they also have any lighter interior work to have the same interior as the Northern refurbs?
 

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oh fair enough, didn’t realise as the photos I saw I couldn’t find any USBs on them. Will they also have any lighter interior work to have the same interior as the Northern refurbs?

The ex-WMT 323s will receive no further additional work internally. It was discussed a few pages back there’s no money to do it.
 

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oh fair enough, didn’t realise as the photos I saw I couldn’t find any USBs on them. Will they also have any lighter interior work to have the same interior as the Northern refurbs?
Most units have, however a handful didn't get done before moving. 219,241,243 come to mind from my final few runs on the cross city with those units
 

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Does anyone know which 156 this was? Presumably 156454 returned yesterday from C6 at Wolverton? TIA
Live rail has -
5E12 28/09 156454
5H70 29/09 156443
 

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Have 150111 and 150226 returned yet, if not what are the expected dates. Any news on 150218.
150111 as quoted above should return today ( it was supposed to be Saturday but it failed before it left). 150226 is due out end of October. 150218 you probably won't see until early 2025 (ish).
 

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Morning dilegentdave

May I have the locations for 156443 and 156444 if possible please? I am still trying to track them down as these are my last northern 156's.

Thank you
 

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Any ideas which unit replaced 323220 at Wolverton today please?

Thanks in advance

Update: 218 in
 
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