Potential Grand Union stock?

[MarlowDonkey]

I thought the Crossrail platforms are A & B, while the London Underground platforms are numbered separately. AFAIK the former 13 and 14 have only been terminal platforms in the later extension. IIRC 14 is under a big bridge/approach road though.

When first built, the Bishops Road platforms were regarded almost as a separate station and all four platforms 13,14,15 and 16 had four rail electrification and connections through to the Circle line. In a 1960s remodelling, the Hammersmith & City line trains were moved to platforms 15 and 16 and 13 and 14 disconnected from the Circle. In a more recent change, platforms 12 and 13 were amalgamated as one long platform and is now often used when there's a 12 coach 387. Platform 14 remains short, six car Turbos would fit, not sure about 8 car 387s.

 

[swt_passenger]

Currently the underground platforms are 15 & 16, platform 14 is a shortened platform at the end of the station with the tube, and platform 13 doesn't exist - I imagine in the past, those may have been the underground platforms.

Platform 13 was much shorter than present until about 2016, and it was then built out at its inner end and joined to the relatively short P12 that was accessed from a set of points within the length of P11. The red line on the attached drawing shows roughly how the two platforms became combined.

 

[mangyiscute]

When first built, the Bishops Road platforms were regarded almost as a separate station and all four platforms 13,14,15 and 16 had four rail electrification and connections through to the Circle line. In a 1960s remodelling, the Hammersmith & City line trains were moved to platforms 15 and 16 and 13 and 14 disconnected from the Circle. In a more recent change, platforms 12 and 13 were amalgamated as one long platform and is now often used when there's a 12 coach 387. Platform 14 remains short, six car Turbos would fit, not sure about 8 car 387s.

8 car 387s certainly fit on platform 14, as this is the usual platform for the didcot semi fasts (when they aren't 12s)

 

[RobShipway]

Open access operators generally run a very profitable corridor (e.g London to York or Doncaster) with a bit added on the end to a place which isn't well served to London and could probably do with a better service.

If it was just London to Cardiff they'd struggle with revenue abstraction, Lumo got through as it argued that many would have flown, taken a coach or just not have traveled, which so far seems about true.

So on the basis that people fly, there is people that fly to Manchester from London and vice versa. Now, it may depend on how many of those people are travelling on to flights elsewhere at Heathrow Airport, but if HS2 gets as far as Manchester, could Grand Union operate a Manchester Piccadilly/Manchester Airport service to Old Oak Common? If so what stock could potentially be used?

 

[Trainbike46]

So on the basis that people fly, there is people that fly to Manchester from London and vice versa. Now, it may depend on how many of those people are travelling on to flights elsewhere at Heathrow Airport, but if HS2 gets as far as Manchester, could Grand Union operate a Manchester Piccadilly/Manchester Airport service to Old Oak Common? If so what stock could potentially be used?

If I understand it correctly, the current plan is for the franchised operator to fill up all HS2 paths available, so there wouldn't be space for an OAO

In any case, this should probably be in another thread (maybe the one about potential OAO routes?)