Southern Class 313 withdrawal/storage/scrapping updates

[TheHSRailFan]

Is there anything left of the not-to-be-preserved 313s ?.

unless Eastleigh sells more flame cuts on ebay... that's it I guess. Except for the preserving stuff...

 

[Class73man]

Class 313 fleet update (as of Nov 2023)

313/0:
313018, 318024-313033, 313035-313064 - All scrapped

313/2:
313202-313215, 313217, 313219-313220 - All scrapped

Preserved:
313121 - Fife Heritage Railway
313201 - 400series, currently located at Arlington Fleet Services Limited in Eastleigh

Is there anything left of the not-to-be-preserved 313s ?.

You can buy parts off of Arlington Fleet Services Limited in Eastleigh:

Link for Arlington Fleet Services Limited ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/afsl-parts
Link to their updates of selling parts: https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonFleet/?locale=en_GB

However, all of them are currently on bid.

 

[Graham H]

Class 313 fleet update (as of Nov 2023)

313/0:
313018, 318024-313033, 313035-313064 - All scrapped

313/2:
313202-313215, 313217, 313219-313220 - All scrapped

Preserved:
313121 - Fife Heritage Railway
313201 - 400series, currently located at Arlington Fleet Services Limited in Eastleigh


You can buy parts off of Arlington Fleet Services Limited in Eastleigh:

Link for Arlington Fleet Services Limited ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/afsl-parts
Link to their updates of selling parts: https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonFleet/?locale=en_GB

However, all of them are currently on bid.

313216 is also scrapped. Two coaches on 31/7 and 1/8 and one coach (62608) which was held pending a possible cab saving went in September. 313218 never existed, any idea why 313018 wasnt converted, it certainly seems to have existed after the conversions to 3132xx were done judging by on line photos

 

[Peter Sarf]

Class 313 fleet update (as of Nov 2023)

313/0:
313018, 318024-313033, 313035-313064 - All scrapped

313/2:
313202-313215, 313217, 313219-313220 - All scrapped

Preserved:
313121 - Fife Heritage Railway
313201 - 400series, currently located at Arlington Fleet Services Limited in Eastleigh


You can buy parts off of Arlington Fleet Services Limited in Eastleigh:

Link for Arlington Fleet Services Limited ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/afsl-parts
Link to their updates of selling parts: https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonFleet/?locale=en_GB

However, all of them are currently on bid.

313216 is also scrapped. Two coaches on 31/7 and 1/8 and one coach (62608) which was held pending a possible cab saving went in September. 313218 never existed, any idea why 313018 wasnt converted, it certainly seems to have existed after the conversions to 3132xx were done judging by on line photos

I notice that still leaves gaps 22, 23 & 34. I recall there were 64 built. I remember getting them all at Moorgate in roughly 1977.

I think 18 was out of use when the conversions were done so got left behind.

 

[Bigvernicus]

313018 remained at Hornsey and was never transfered to Willesden for use on the DC lines, subsequently all the Willesden units were transfered to the Southern at Brighton becoming 313/2's, I think modifications were made to the 313/0's to run on the DC lines so were renumbered 313/1's on transfer from Hornsey. Whether 313018 was out of service long term at the time of transfers to Willesden and missed the modifications to 313/1's,

 

[notverydeep]

I notice that still leaves gaps 22, 23 & 34. I recall there were 64 built. I remember getting them all at Moorgate in roughly 1977.

I think 18 was out of use when the conversions were done so got left behind.

These three went to GN (back to Moorgate services) when their use on Silverlink / LO came to an end and continued to be used until the end of 313s from Moorgate, complete with their original low back seats. From memory they remained with their 122, 123 and 134 numbers. I assume that like all of the other 313s withdrawn from GN they have been scrapped but don't have the details the experts on this thread likely have!

 

[prod_pep]

According to RCTS records, 313018 did briefly move to Bletchley (the 313s were allocated there for most of their North London spell, not Willesden), albeit only for a month. It moved from Hornsey with 313019/21-23 in October 1989, to replace 2-EPBs on the North London Line. However, 018 went back to Hornsey in November to be replaced by the foreshortened 313034, the trailer of this unit having been donated to experimental unit 316999. 313018 then remained at Hornsey for the rest of its working life.

The two-car 034 had a spell on mainly on the Croxley Green branch, occasionally being paired with another 313 on the Euston service in five-car formation. There were then several to-and-fro moves between Hornsey and Bletchley as availability dictated; 313034 went back to Hornsey in January 1991 following an underfloor fire and it was put back to use on the Great Northern. Both it and 313020 moved to Bletchley permanently around 1993-4, but strangely 018 did not follow.

 

[Class73man]

These three went to GN (back to Moorgate services) when their use on Silverlink / LO came to an end and continued to be used until the end of 313s from Moorgate, complete with their original low back seats. From memory they remained with their 122, 123 and 134 numbers. I assume that like all of the other 313s withdrawn from GN they have been scrapped but don't have the details the experts on this thread likely have!

Weren't they the ones used on Silverlink to form with the 508s on the section where OHLE + Third Rail were required?

 

[prod_pep]

Weren't they the ones used on Silverlink to form with the 508s on the section where OHLE + Third Rail were required?

I hope I'm not misunderstanding you, but any of Silverlink's 313s could be used alongside the 508s on the DC-only Watford line. I seem to remember the Watford line was diagrammed for two 508s and four 313s on the line Monday to Saturday, but you'd sometimes see all three 508s out. Naturally AC on the other lines precluded the 508s from doing any other Silverlink Metro lines.

To move the 508s onto Willesden depot, they had to be coupled with a 313. Usually the 508s were to be found at Watford Junction when not in service.

 

[Class73man]

I hope I'm not misunderstanding you, but any of Silverlink's 313s could be used alongside the 508s on the DC-only Watford line. I seem to remember the Watford line was diagrammed for two 508s and four 313s on the line Monday to Saturday, but you'd sometimes see all three 508s out. Naturally AC on the other lines precluded the 508s from doing any other Silverlink Metro lines.

To move the 508s onto Willesden depot, they had to be coupled with a 313. Usually the 508s were to be found at Watford Junction when not in service.

I was around that era and didn't have interest in the railways until nearly 5 years ago but I was told a story that 508s and 313s were coupled together very often and always questioned why it was done?

 

[prod_pep]

I was around that era and didn't have interest in the railways until nearly 5 years ago but I was told a story that 508s and 313s were coupled together very often and always questioned why it was done?

Just for depot moves every now and then but never in service. There may have been 313+508 moves to Bletchley from time-to-time for maintenance. Six-car 313 formations had long been verboten on the Watford line as IIRC it played havoc with track circuits.

Indeed, I believe the only time Silverlink ever used six-car 313s in service was in September 2003 when the entire 321 fleet was sidelined, and this was on the WCML.