• Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Storm Henk travel disruption 02/01/24

Status
Not open for further replies.
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

dk1

Veteran Member
Joined
2 Oct 2009
Messages
16,086
Location
East Anglia
Most Greater Anglia routes now being affected, some severely. Looks like OHL damage between Ipswich & Stowmarket too.
 

MarkWi72

Member
Joined
13 Nov 2017
Messages
243
"Typical British weather" is being exacerbated by climate change. It has been for at least 10-15 years , with such storms becoming more and more frequent. The railways have had a rough couple of weeks as a result.
 

dk1

Veteran Member
Joined
2 Oct 2009
Messages
16,086
Location
East Anglia
Tree on fire on top of 4E83 which is carrying dangerous goods. All services suspended north of Ipswich.
 

150249

Member
Joined
13 Dec 2021
Messages
881
Location
Exeter
I've been around Devon with my mates on the trains today. 802111 arrived into Plymouth on time and left Exeter 137 late. Many angry faces on board. I thought a full scale riot could break out any minute. People don't seem to understand that this wind and rain isn't brought on by the train staff.

The roof of the footbridge at Okehampton blew off onto the tracks and there was a tree down on the Barnstaple line. Two branches out of Exeter closed for most of the day. At one point, only the Exmouth to Paignton line was running.
 

MP393

Member
Joined
28 Jun 2021
Messages
342
Location
North West
Flooding at Yorton, Gobowen & Beeston Castle has meant that TfW has suspended services from Manchester - Shrewsbury, Chester - Shrewsbury & Crewe - Chester for the rest of the day now.

Heart of Wales closed due to flooding (after only reopening today, due to flooding)

All lines closed west of Carmarthen on the branches too
 

MarkWi72

Member
Joined
13 Nov 2017
Messages
243
More WCML disruption, although this was 15:43. Off Birmingham Live:

A spokesperson for Avanti West Coast said: "There are multiple incidents of flooding on our network. Between Birmingham International and Coventry, resulting in all our Midlands services being diverted. Between Crewe and Stafford, resulting in the line towards Stafford being blocked."

They added: "Services travelling via the Midlands are currently unable to call at Wolverhampton, Sandwell and Dudley, Birmingham New Street, Birmingham International and Coventry. Delays and cancellations are possible. Please check before you travel."
 
Last edited:

WelshBluebird

Established Member
Joined
14 Jan 2010
Messages
4,923
It will be typical British weather once you average it out over the course of the whole winter.
Except of course the effects of rainfall don't average out over the month. Given we've already had a wet December, any storm immediately following that is going to have a large impact due to the already waterlogged ground. The rest of the winter being dry makes no difference!
 

ScotGG

Established Member
Joined
3 Apr 2013
Messages
1,377
Can people PLEASE not post links to god awful clickbait sites from Reach absolutely riddled with ads and pop ups if any alternative?

I just clicked one that wasn't marked as Reach and the site was so bad I hopefully havn't picked anything up from all the pop ups. They're utterly awful sites normally ending in Live eg EssexLive, DevonLive etc.
 

InkyScrolls

Member
Joined
20 Jul 2022
Messages
924
Location
North of England
Can people PLEASE not post links to god awful clickbait sites from Reach absolutely riddled with ads and pop ups if any alternative?
Seconded!

Whether 'climate change' is to blame or not, this sort of weather is typical for the UK in winter. Rather than arguing over how long we've been experiencing these sorts of storms, time would be better spent in finding ways to improve the resilience of the railway to such weather events. Having the system fall apart every time a storm comes along does nothing to decrease reliance on cars.
 

bahnause

Member
Joined
30 Dec 2016
Messages
438
Location
bülach (switzerland)
It will be typical British weather once you average it out over the course of the whole winter. For example, most reputable weather websites are predicting a dry spell of nearly two weeks once we get today's rain out of the way
Yes, and if you put one leg in 80-degree water and the other leg in ice water, you have the perfect temperature for a bath. But you wouldn't do that. The same is true for infrastructure, the average value is not really that relevant.
Also, a hotter climate means a wetter climate. Physics applies to everyone.
 

apbj

Member
Joined
18 May 2023
Messages
22
Location
London
Seems to be taking an hour or so to clear Totnes on the GWML at the moment - the line is open but an announcement on board referred to the need for a "pilot" to take the train through the affected section. And then there's Paddington-Reading without power :/
 

TPO

Member
Joined
7 Jun 2018
Messages
349
It was flooding there 40 years ago when we lived a couple of miles from it.
Various attempts have been made to cure it, but the local geology seems to defeat all attempts.

Indeed, the most recent attempt I recall was to build a new lagoon to hold the flood water they pump out so it can be dispersed. Unfortunately, when you get day after day (week after week) of rain, it cannot cope.

[Slight digression. According to a local history book, the old GWR didn't really want to build the Badminton cut-off (i.e. the link from Wootton Bassett Jn to Stoke Gifford Jn via Chipping Sodbury, so that trains for south Wales didn't need to go MLN via Box). There's a story that after getting the Act of Parliament to enable it, they realised the cost was more than originally expected due to geology, so delayed building it for years..... until the original Vale of Glamorgan Railway joined forces with the Barry railway to propose a direct route to London via a Severn bridge...... the deal for withdrawing the proposal being that GWR finally build the Badminton Cutoff and allow access. This was in the days when Barry Docks was one of the main coal exporting ports in the world, so seems plausible.]

Flooding at Yorton, Gobowen & Beeston Castle has meant that TfW has suspended services from Manchester - Shrewsbury, Chester - Shrewsbury & Crewe - Chester for the rest of the day now.

Heart of Wales closed due to flooding (after only reopening today, due to flooding)

All lines closed west of Carmarthen on the branches too

It was very wet here in south Wales overnight, and the rain was falling onto already saturated ground. The Valleys have also been affected today, with flooding between Pontypridd and Merthyr/Aberdare (the Treherbert line is of course still under blockade for upgrade). Penarth-Rhymney was running to timetable, with trains running a shuttle pattern Cardiff-Rhoose (vice Bridgend) and out to Barry Island. The train planners basically rejigged the whole timetable. [This used to be done as a matter of course in the past when flooding closed the Merthyr and Aberdare lines in the "usual places" so I guess they have some pre-done schedules they can use].

It's times like this that any cut backs in Off Track a few years ago will be felt. Not just falling trees, but at this time of year, drainage ditches need constant clearing, (yesterday I noticed a lot of huge puddles where road drains had blocked- it's not just the railway). Traffic Wales also suggests that the A483 is closed due to flooding in the "usual place" at Builth Wells, and I'm quite surprised that the A483 at Pool Quay isn't also under water the way it was in 2000.

These things go in phases- typically in line with ENSO (En Nino Southern Oscillation). I wish people would stop falling back on the too-convenient excuse of climate change, and understand the consequences of a beancounter-led approach to maintenance. It's too easy to say "climate change" and not face the responsibility for making the wrong call by saving a few quid from cutting staff. There's a LOT that can be done to cope with any changing climatic conditions, but that needs a practical approach starting with enough people to maintain ALL of the infrastructure properly- including the "Cinderella" elements called Drains, Vegetation and suchlike.

TPO
 

Wivenswold

Established Member
Joined
24 Jul 2012
Messages
1,478
Location
Essex
C2C still going strong, somehow. Tree incursion between Manningtree and Ipswich. GA slowly shutting down at the moment.
 

43055

Established Member
Joined
8 Mar 2018
Messages
2,912
The following from EMR website with them advising not to travel.

Flooding at Draycott has got worse so the line between Derby and Long Eaton is now blocked.
Also flooding around Market Harborough some services have gone via Melton but Intercity is now suspended.
Landslip east of Nottingham station meaning all routes east of Notts blocked.
Flooding at Meir Tunnel so no Derby - Crewe.
 

Purple Train

Established Member
Joined
16 Jul 2022
Messages
1,507
Location
Darkest Commuterland
Seems to be taking an hour or so to clear Totnes on the GWML at the moment - the line is open but an announcement on board referred to the need for a "pilot" to take the train through the affected section. And then there's Paddington-Reading without power :/
Paddington-Reading seems to be slowly returning to normal, albeit with major disruption. Ended up 91 late on 9R38 in the midst of the disruption.
 

VP185

Member
Joined
13 Feb 2010
Messages
345
Seems to be taking an hour or so to clear Totnes on the GWML at the moment - the line is open but an announcement on board referred to the need for a "pilot" to take the train through the affected section. And then there's Paddington-Reading without power :/

Only the down line is currently open. All Up services are having to crossover onto the down line and run wrong direction to Totnes. As its an unsignalled move a pilotman is needed to travel with every train through the section.

This is all because of high and fast flowing water under the line between Totnes and Ivybridge which needs a diver to examine. Quite why only one line is affected I don’t know!
 

uww11x

Member
Joined
15 Oct 2017
Messages
369
NR simply don't learn. The usual spots flooding and nearby jungles collapsing with trees.
 

PedroHav

Member
Joined
14 Apr 2022
Messages
45
Location
Havant
Everything at standstill and cancelled through Southampton, Fareham, Portsmouth and Havant. Looks like it until the end of the day .... Although Southern are running as far as Chichester and turning round there.
 

londonmidland

Established Member
Joined
22 Dec 2009
Messages
1,840
Location
Leicester
EMR have suspended all of their InterCity services for the rest of the day, due to flooding across various parts of the network.

There has also been a landslip east of Nottingham.
 

James H

Member
Joined
25 Jun 2014
Messages
1,107
I was passing Bournemouth station about an hour ago and thought it was a poor show that the station was simply closed and locked up with the lights off.

No access to shelter indoors, toilet etc.
 

MarkWi72

Member
Joined
13 Nov 2017
Messages
243
OLE resilience migt
Can people PLEASE not post links to god awful clickbait sites from Reach absolutely riddled with ads and pop ups if any alternative?

I just clicked one that wasn't marked as Reach and the site was so bad I hopefully havn't picked anything up from all the pop ups. They're utterly awful sites normally ending in Live eg EssexLive, DevonLive etc.
Apologies, I've now deleted that link.
 

Wivenswold

Established Member
Joined
24 Jul 2012
Messages
1,478
Location
Essex
Did you mean Ipswich & Stowmarket?
According to Signal Maps, there's an issue country side of Bentley crossing, though I see a Norwich service made it through to Ipswich.
Edit, thanks to GB for confirming problem.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top