WarrenTManager
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This was the first attempt. The times last week were spurious.
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37884 CEPHEUS second day running on the scrap moves and burbling to the full.
Performing a dream on the 5Q76 1119 Wimbledon to Newport scrap move on time despite nearby issues on the Nol.
With 5907 for scrap. 5907 now gone for scrap. However not 5903 as someone entered on www.liverailrecord.co.uk.
Sadly 5907 now for scrap. Job well done all around.
Witnessed at Shepherds Bush
Performing a dream on the 5Q76 1119 Wimbledon to Newport scrap move on time despite nearby issues on the Nol.
With 5907 for scrap. 5907 now gone for scrap. However not 5903 as someone entered on www.liverailrecord.co.uk.
Sadly 5907 now for scrap. Job well done all around.
Witnessed at Shepherds Bush
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This now means that at least one of all three Class 455 subclasses have now been sent for scrap.
WesternBiker
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Slightly off topic, but I’m on a Waterloo to Basingstoke service formed by 444012. It’s the first time in five years of regular trips that that’s happened (normally a 450 of course).
Is that a sign of SWR rolling stock shortages? (There do seem to be plenty of 12 car 450 formations around today though.)
Is that a sign of SWR rolling stock shortages? (There do seem to be plenty of 12 car 450 formations around today though.)
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13:12 Waterloo-Basingstoke (and the rest of its diagram of course), has been a 444 since May.
WesternBiker
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Ah, thank you for that. (It’s earlier than I normally travel.) I’m enjoying the extra comfort!
HamworthyGoods
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Although two class 455/9 vehicles have already been scrapped quite sometime ago.
Ex class 210 cars 67301 and 67400 replaced accident damaged vehicles 71731 and 62838.
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71731 wasn’t accident damaged. From memory, it had been used in plug door trials and the cost/difficulty of conversion back to standard was excessive, hence the use of a substitute vehicle.
More details here: http://extra.southernelectric.org.uk/features/rolling-stock/455/index.html
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How long until they Govt and RailCos boast that they have reduced the average age of the trains
'Gone' as in cut up, at Simms? What are they expecting in large amounts?!
TT-ONR-NRN
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Hopefully the mass of 317s and 321s still due to go. And the rotting pile of 43s at Long Marston.
What's wrong with you man, that's heritage traction!!
How you can be so emotionless, you savage!! 
*I jest, obviously!
Direct policy is break and clear the stock,down to keeping metal waste down to a minimum
A cement mixer crashed of a road bridge and landed on tip of one set that had the vehicles replaced with the only 2 remaining class 210 demu vehicles
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Has 5918 left by road yet - if so where did it go?
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4SubAsociation
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71731 was replaced with vechile 67400. This was due to the plug door trials. It was from unit 5912.
The cement mixer vechile is 67301 (cannot recall the orignal vechile number). This was owned by the Suburban Electric Railway Assocation and was bought at the same time as 67300. It was intended that 67301 was to be kept for a Class 210 project which did not happen (covered here Post 54) - https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-210-driving-motor.212311/page-2)
So it was sold back to the leasing company and reused in 5913 after the cement mixer incident. Theorteically it is possible to travel on 210/457 vechiles at the same time when units 5912 and 5913 are togther.
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No. What I posted was correct. Only one vehicle in 5913 was damaged beyond repair by the cement mixer incident.
Don’t think the 456s will be in existence for much longer at this rate
M-Train
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Would it be accurate to assume that preservation is out of the question entirely?
Barely made 30 years. I recall the end of the EPBs on the Central division in May 1993. Unfortunately I was only a kid, there were basically no mobiles or internet so I turned up a day too late and was greeted by a 456 on the Horsham to Dorking shuttle. Never liked them since!
I would have to assume so sadly
Invincible
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Had Stagecoach won the franchise would have seem the 455/6 refurbished to give a few more years as 10 coach units, but without AC and toilets, not much use for passengers ion longer journeys.
But the Mk3 based EMUs have had their day, there are several other Mk3 based units preserved.
We've covered it many times before I realise, but I still find it odd to see what look like complete units being sent to the choppers in straight out of service condition (excepting the lights in this case!). LED destination gear and even the cab CCTV all still intact, really does seem an awfully wasteful process. Particularly given that Simms in particular don't do parts removal, all straight in the shredder. Trains still in service elsewhere with knackered 40 year old seating, while ironing boards with a decade or so under their belts are going for scrap. What a mess of a situation!
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I vaguely recall the back end of EPB operation on the South Eastern Division (Kent Link by that time I think?). I wish they'd lasted a few more years as I was very young so the memories are rather vague. I had a bit of a disliking for the 319s which replaced them on the Catford Loop where I used to travel, purely because they replaced the EPBs. I actually rather like 319s now, as they themselves near the end of their lives (and I did grow up with them).
I've always liked the 456s for some reason. They're completely unremarkable really, but I thought they were nice little trains. I have an early memory of travelling on one form London Bridge to Victoria (I think) in the early 90s. I think when the last of the BR era stock is withdrawn my interest will wane sadly; it's what I grew up with and what sparked my interest as a child.
I know what you mean. I'm struggling with the demise of the 317s. Never really liked the 319s but then the Connex units were dire. Ironically the same units are now on my doorstep in Cardiff. At least they are clean now. And the heaters work. I did have a farewell blast down to Horsham on a 456+455+456 combination just before they finished at Selhurst. On SWT I only ever did one from Ascot to Aldershot, still in Southern livery.