Is it just the E300s passing to Stagecoach or are the E400s going as well?May have changed now but they are due to pass to Stagecoach with Oldham Depot next year.
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Is it just the E300s passing to Stagecoach or are the E400s going as well?May have changed now but they are due to pass to Stagecoach with Oldham Depot next year.
My understanding is the plan is/was to sell all 29 E300s to Stagecoach and transfer the trainers, E400s, B9s and Streetlites elsewhere in First (including transfers to Rochdale)?May have changed now but they are due to pass to Stagecoach with Oldham Depot next year.
It seems a bit strange to send it to Essex for repainting as surely there are places nearer Manchester that could have done the job.The image
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Freshly painted in Bee Network livery, First Manchester ADL Enviro300 67401, SN13 CJV starting the first stage of its delivery run back to Manchester from Marden Commercials
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Perhaps they are all busy with other Bee Network repaintsIt seems a bit strange to send it to Essex for repainting as surely there are places nearer Manchester that could have done the job.
Mardens do a lot of work for First Essex and Ensigns, but yes I agree it is a fair distance!It seems a bit strange to send it to Essex for repainting as surely there are places nearer Manchester that could have done the job.
Yes that it what I was told too. Possibly 63096-63102 (if/when they get the other three!) would probably go to Rochdale with the Amazon work?My understanding is the plan is/was to sell all 29 E300s to Stagecoach and transfer the trainers, E400s, B9s and Streetlites elsewhere in First (including transfers to Rochdale)?
Am I right in assuming all the Enviro 400 MMCs Stagecoach are painting Yellow at the moment are for transfer when Tranche 2 goes live and they take on new depots?
Hurrah!! At long last. The start of many hopefullyRejoice!! We finally have a paint bus at Bolton!!!
Solo 4201 is in from today, will receive a fresh coat of yellow paint and will then be off to pastures new as it joins Wigans fleet in exchange for an E200.
Photo attached of 4201 destickered in the paintshop.
I wouldn't get overly carried away just yet, we still haven't quite got a full paint supply sorted and the scaffolding has been delayed, so no deckers yet...Hurrah!! At long last. The start of many hopefully
Do you still brush paint or are there spray facilities now at Bolton?
SK73 CUU | 4137 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
SK73 CUV | 4138 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
SK73 CUX | 4140 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
Thanks for the update, I’ll not get too excited just yet.I wouldn't get overly carried away just yet, we still haven't quite got a full paint supply sorted and the scaffolding has been delayed, so no deckers yet...
We're still brush painting them all, with the best coach paint in the business. To be honest though, the sprayed buses aren't wearing any better than ours so it really makes no difference...
More new arrivals at Bolton are of the following new E200MMCs:
SK73 CUU 4137 Bolton Enviro 200 MMC SK73 CUV 4138 Bolton Enviro 200 MMC
SK73 CUX 4140 Bolton Enviro 200 MMC
Thanks for the update, I’ll not get too excited just yet.
Are they still planning to send out for repaints? Just thinking spaces will be filling up as we get nearer towards tranche 2&3. Although Stagecoach seem to be doing theirs in-house and looks like first are using Marsdens (which is a bit of a treck!)
Thanks for the update.Nothing is set in stone yet. Some will go out as interiors need refurbishment but that will start to be done in house eventually aswell...
SK73 CUW 4139 Enviro 200 MMC200 has now landed at Bolton and is currently being prepped for service.
CorrectThanks for the update.
Quick one, noticed a few of the newbies have tiny fleet numbers, are you waiting for new stock of the regular size ones?
Well, it depends... who's going to be making the stickers because I certainly don't have time when we've buses to paint... I used to have one when we were under FirstBus and I hardly got near it or I had to come in on a weekend to do them...Would it not make sense for the paint shop to have a vinyl printer for the smaller items and only order in the full body wraps?
At my pharmaceutical company we had one just for making things like emergency signage.
I wouldn't get management to make themThat sounds like a Management problem.
And converted to single door as well.3119 has been repainted into Bee Network livery (not my photo)
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SK73 CVA | 4142 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
SK73 CVB | 4143 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
Thanks for the update. Spotted 4126/33 with their ‘new’ fleetnumbers earlier todayMore new arrivals at Bolton consist of:
SK73 CVA 4142 Bolton Enviro 200 MMC SK73 CVB 4143 Bolton Enviro 200 MMC
Fleetnumbers have now arrived and buses are being fitted with them as and when they arrive from ADL and when they call in the garage from service.
SK73 CVC | 4144 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
SK73 CVD | 4145 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
SK73 CVE | 4146 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
There is no set time, just as and when they are no longer required. Given that some of our legacy buses are still away being fixed, it'll all depend on circumstances.When is it expected that the last of the loan MMCs will be heading back? It can’t be far off now. Also what’s happening with the Classic E200s? Are they staying for longer?
I was referring to the ex First examples that are on loan, Im not sure if Go-Ahead have bought them outright though.There is no set time, just as and when they are no longer required. Given that some of our legacy buses are still away being fixed, it'll all depend on circumstances.
What do you mean by "Classic E200"? The normal ones ex Diamond or others?
As far as I've been told, they've been acquired and will eventually either be cascaded through the group or refurbished into Bee buses, I think alot depends on the former Diamond stock to be honest...I was referring to the ex First examples that are on loan, Im not sure if Go-Ahead have bought them outright though.
Interesting I also wonder how much of the Queens Road fleet will stay with Go North West? Geminis will for sure be moved on.As far as I've been told, they've been acquired and will eventually either be cascaded through the group or refurbished into Bee buses, I think alot depends on the former Diamond stock to be honest...
SK73 CVF | 4147 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
SK73 CVG | 4148 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
SK73 CVH | 4149 | Bolton | Enviro 200 MMC |
Thanks for the update.Good morning,
Former Diamond E200 4035 has had its repaint completed and has returned to the garage for some final jobs to be carried out before it returns to traffic.
It's place in the paintshop has been taken by Citaro 6252.
Speaking of Citaros, former Diamond 6242 has been returned to Rotala due to its poor condition. It's not yet known if it will return.