Most people "in the know" are not at all surprised by this decision by Stagecoach. Could it be that certain tenders have an end-period date of end-October 2022?
It's not tenders, it's commercial routes in most of the cases.
In that case, are Stagecoach playing hard-ball with TfGM in advance of the proposed Burnham project coming into operation?
That is what I think is going on.
More like Bus Recovery Grant 2 coming to an end in October and operations being cut back as a result of the reduced revenue (particularly from ENCTS passholders). It's happening all over the country.
Some of the cuts are too drastic for it to be that. The Wigan 1 and 2 are combined every 15 minutes. You don't go from every 15 minutes combined to nothing
In fairness, they do have the summer timetables and have done that for many years. Reducing frequencies and journey times because of no school traffic (which generally means less commuting and more holidays). Whether they go back up to full service though is a different matter of course.
Commonwealth Games commitments?
Diamond are running it yes.
As someone who occasionally uses the 1&2 Wigan routes, it would certainly be severe to leave the areas they serve with no service.
While this may be true in certain areas, in the Stockport area many of the routes to be withdrawn serve fairly affluent areas such as Bramhall and have probably become non-viable commercially. Given TfGM's profligacy, they may tender for full replacement, rather than just subsidise provision of a weekday daytime skeletal service as other more prudent local authorities do.
One should also consider how much Government finance is put into similar other big city transport authorities worldwide when considering that matter?
Was this a reply to something?
According to the Stagecoach website, service changes show the 56 runs until the 23rd July and that the 156 continues to run from the 24th. So a reduction in frequency for much of the route from 4 per hour to 2. Also some roads no longer served, though the 41 does cover some of these.
Reducing of 4bph to 1 in Blackley. As the 156 is doing half hourly Manchester to the Hospital then hourly extensions to Middleton.
Still every 30 to Middleton for most of the day leaving Middleton at :19 and :49 past each hour
Ignore me, I was looking at Sunday timetable. Sorry
I presume the comment about route 378 alludes to my comment above about the intended withdrawal of services to Bramhall.
I actually did some research on this for a graduate school paper back in the fall of 2021, but only regarding buses. For buses, TfGM spent £28.9 million in the 2018/19 fiscal year. For comparison, Frankfurt am Main spent €33.24 million (or approximately £28.33 million) on bus services in 2019, and New York City spent $3.03 billion (or approximately £2.52 billion).
And 3 times that of Frankfurt.
The 378 and 379 services are currently Stockport to Heald Green circulars via Bramhall that incorporate the part of the former 312 route in the Heald Green area. I wonder if it will be the evening services only on those two circular routes that are proposed to be withdrawn in end-October. The 42B service serves Bramhall, but is an hourly service at present.
And part of the former 307/308 route in Bramhall.
I spoke to TfGM yesterday and they confirmed that from the Stagecoach end-October listing, the services that will be totally withdrawn are:-
