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TfW 15x/17x withdrawals (17x now finished)

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Jez said:
It was quite busy on the 1744 as the GWR was late and we left before it. But i boarded at the end of Platform 3A and it seemed quieter in this carriage. It did seem very smooth and quiet. I wondered if one of the engines was out.
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All 3 engines were running when it passed me around 1537
 
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Diagrams for 175s during the block look to be 1 on the North side and 2 on the south.
The Hereford shuttles appear to be solid 150/158 with a 150+153+153 on the overnight.

175 Diagrams (on paper!):
06:29 Crewe-Manchester Pic
07:30/10:30/13:30/16:30/19:30 Manchester Pic-Shrewsbury
08:44/11:53/14:50/17:50/20:58 Shrewsbury-Manchester
22:32 Manchester-Crewe

All other Shrewsbury-Manchester are booked 2 car 197s

ECS Canton to Cheltenham
05:37 Cheltenham to Maesteg
08:03 Maesteg to Cheltenham
10:42 Cheltenham to Maesteg
13:15 Maesteg-Cardiff C
14:17 Cardiff C-Maesteg
15:15 Maesteg-Cheltenham
17:45 Cheltenham-Maesteg
20:10 Maesteg-Cheltenham
22:58 Cheltenham-Cardiff C

ECS Canton to Bridgend
06:35 Bridgend to Cheltenham
08:46 Cheltenham to Maesteg
11:15 Maesteg-Cheltenham
13:45 Cheltenham-Maesteg
16:16 Maesteg-Cheltenham
18:46 Cheltenham-Maesteg
21:13 Maesteg-Cardiff C

These are their booked diagrams but can and likely will be swaps on the day. Already, the North diagram is showing as 150241 tomorrow.


Storage wise 175105 arrived at Crewe Gresty Green sidings yesterday joining 010/011/107 there.

The current status of the /1s is:
175101- At Chester since 05/09
175102- At Chester since 10/09
175103- At Chester since 17/08
175104- At Holyhead since 30/06
175105- At Crewe Gresty Green since 10/09
175106- At Holyhead since 23/06
175107- At Crewe Gresty Green since 04/07
175108- En-route to Crewe ETD for Tyre Turning
175109- At Chester since 18/08
175110- In Service Cheltenham-Maestegs Arrives Canton @02:19
175111- Longsight Parts Donor
175112- At Holyhead since 11/09
175113- Canton off 1V97 today
175114- Canton off 1V46 today
175115- At Chester since 07/09
175116- At Landore for Hand back since 01/09
 
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sd0733 said:
Diagrams for 175s during the block look to be 1 on the North side and 2 on the south.
The Hereford shuttles appear to be solid 150/158 with a 150+153+153 on the overnight.

175 Diagrams (on paper!):
06:29 Crewe-Manchester Pic
07:30/10:30/13:30/16:30/19:30 Manchester Pic-Shrewsbury
08:44/11:53/14:50/17:50/20:58 Shrewsbury-Manchester
22:32 Manchester-Crewe

All other Shrewsbury-Manchester are booked 2 car 197s

ECS Canton to Cheltenham
05:37 Cheltenham to Maesteg
08:03 Maesteg to Cheltenham
10:42 Cheltenham to Maesteg
13:15 Maesteg-Cardiff C
14:17 Cardiff C-Maesteg
15:15 Maesteg-Cheltenham
17:45 Cheltenham-Maesteg
20:10 Maesteg-Cheltenham
22:58 Cheltenham-Maesteg

ECS Canton to Bridgend
06:35 Bridgend to Cheltenham
08:46 Cheltenham to Maesteg
11:15 Maesteg-Cheltenham
13:45 Cheltenham-Maesteg
16:16 Maesteg-Cheltenham
18:46 Cheltenham-Maesteg
21:13 Maesteg-Cardiff C

These are their booked diagrams but can and likely will be swaps on the day. Already, the North diagram is showing as 150241 tomorrow.
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Doesn't this terminate at Cardiff?
 
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TT-ONR-NRN said:
Thanks for that information.
No 197s down in Cardiff for a while then :(
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Looks that way. There's a couple down finished at Canton, 1 training and 1 in service but don't look to have any booked passenger work at all.
 
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sd0733 said:
Looks that way. There's a couple down finished at Canton, 1 training and 1 in service but don't look to have any booked passenger work at all.
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Suppose it's a good chance to get more training done as presumably a few spare crew too?
 
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sd0733 said:
Diagrams for 175s during the block look to be 1 on the North side and 2 on the south.
The Hereford shuttles appear to be solid 150/158 with a 150+153+153 on the overnight.

175 Diagrams (on paper!):
06:29 Crewe-Manchester Pic
07:30/10:30/13:30/16:30/19:30 Manchester Pic-Shrewsbury
08:44/11:53/14:50/17:50/20:58 Shrewsbury-Manchester
22:32 Manchester-Crewe

All other Shrewsbury-Manchester are booked 2 car 197s

ECS Canton to Cheltenham
05:37 Cheltenham to Maesteg
08:03 Maesteg to Cheltenham
10:42 Cheltenham to Maesteg
13:15 Maesteg-Cardiff C
14:17 Cardiff C-Maesteg
15:15 Maesteg-Cheltenham
17:45 Cheltenham-Maesteg
20:10 Maesteg-Cheltenham
22:58 Cheltenham-Cardiff C

ECS Canton to Bridgend
06:35 Bridgend to Cheltenham
08:46 Cheltenham to Maesteg
11:15 Maesteg-Cheltenham
13:45 Cheltenham-Maesteg
16:16 Maesteg-Cheltenham
18:46 Cheltenham-Maesteg
21:13 Maesteg-Cardiff C

These are their booked diagrams but can and likely will be swaps on the day. Already, the North diagram is showing as 150241 tomorrow.


Storage wise 175105 arrived at Crewe Gresty Green sidings yesterday joining 010/011/107 there.

The current status of the /1s is:
175101- At Chester since 05/09
175102- At Chester since 10/09
175103- At Chester since 17/08
175104- At Holyhead since 30/06
175105- At Crewe Gresty Green since 10/09
175106- At Holyhead since 23/06
175107- At Crewe Gresty Green since 04/07
175108- En-route to Crewe ETD for Tyre Turning
175109- At Chester since 18/08
175110- In Service Cheltenham-Maestegs Arrives Canton @02:19
175111- Longsight Parts Donor
175112- At Holyhead since 11/09
175113- Canton off 1V97 today
175114- Canton off 1V46 today
175115- At Chester since 07/09
175116- At Landore for Hand back since 01/09
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Thanks for the info.

I see 175110 is working 1300 Milford to Cardiff.
 
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Suppose it's a good chance to get more training done as presumably a few spare crew too?
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Possibly, I'm not totally sure what the plan is with the rest of the training if I'm honest.

Jez said:
Thanks for the info.

I see 175110 is working 1300 Milford to Cardiff.
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Yes it's covering a 150 diagram. It finishes back in Canton if it sticks to the diagram.
 
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Two 175s making it to Birmimgham International tonight,

175101 1I24 1939 Chester - Birmingham International, 1J35 2211 Birmimgham International - Shrewsbury

175102 1I26 2027 Chester - Birmingham International via Crewe, 1D33 2240 Birmingham International - Chester via Crewe. (Attaches to 101 at Shrewsbury)

Whilst not unheard of, there definitely won’t be many more occasions in the future where two will follow each other down there!
 
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Not a withdrawal but doesnt really warrant its own thread. 150258 and 285 are making their way back to Canton this morning running the long way round via Bescot and Bromsgrove to avoid the Dinmore block.

Realtime Trains | 5W78 0846 Crewe C.S. to Cardiff Canton Sidings | 18/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 5W78 0846 departure from Crewe C.S. to Cardiff Canton Sidings on 18/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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sd0733 said:
Not a withdrawal but doesnt really warrant its own thread. 150258 and 285 are making their way back to Canton this morning running the long way round via Bescot and Bromsgrove to avoid the Dinmore block.

Realtime Trains | 5W78 0846 Crewe C.S. to Cardiff Canton Sidings | 18/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 5W78 0846 departure from Crewe C.S. to Cardiff Canton Sidings on 18/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Are these the 2 that were fire damaged? If so that means Northern might be getting their units back soon.
 
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170UTD said:
Are these the 2 that were fire damaged? If so that means Northern might be getting their units back soon.
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No just been on maintenance at Crewe. The 2 Craven Arms ones are at Landore.
 
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Just 5 175 diagrams left now, the ones whilst the reduced North-South service until Thursday seem to have them relegated quite a bit to shuttles and local work, a lot of the mainline work is on what would be Mk4 diagrams normally. These are them for those interested:

ECS Canton to Cheltenham
05:37 Cheltenham to Maesteg
08:03 Maesteg to Cheltenham
10:42 Cheltenham to Maesteg
13:15 Maesteg-Cardiff C
14:17 Cardiff C-Maesteg
15:15 Maesteg-Cheltenham
17:45 Cheltenham-Maesteg
20:10 Maesteg-Cheltenham
22:58 Cheltenham-Cardiff C

ECS Canton to Bridgend
06:35 Bridgend to Cheltenham
08:46 Cheltenham to Maesteg
11:15 Maesteg-Cheltenham
13:45 Cheltenham-Maesteg
16:16 Maesteg-Cheltenham
18:46 Cheltenham-Maesteg
21:13 Maesteg-Cardiff C

ECS Canton to Swansea
05:36 Swansea to Manchester
10:30 Manchester to Cardiff
14:39 Cardiff to Manchester
18:30 Manchester to Cardiff.

ECS Crewe to Manchester
06:27 Manchester to Cardiff
10:52 Cardiff to Manchester
14:30 Manchester to Cardiff
20:46 Caridiff to Chester

04:46 Chester to Crewe
05:58 Crewe to Carmarthen
10:58 Carmarthen to Swansea
11:52 Swansea to Carmarthen
13:04 Carmarthen to Swansea
13:57 Swansea to Carmarthen
15:01 Carmarthen to Swansea
15:54 Swansea to Carmarthen
16:55 Carmarthen to Cardiff
19:41 Cardiff to Manchester
Ecs Manchester to Crewe.


The current status of the /1s is:
175101- In service coupled with 175102 ends Canton
175102- In service coupled to 175101 ends Canton
175103- At Holyhead since 15/09
175104- At Holyhead since 30/06
175105- At Crewe Gresty Green since 10/09. Had a run out to Nuneaton and back 19/09
175106- At Holyhead since 23/06
175107- At Crewe Gresty Green since 04/07
175108- At Chester since 13/09
175109- At Chester since 23/09
175110- At Canton since 20/09
175111- Longsight Parts Donor
175112- At Holyhead since 11/09
175113- In service ends the day Canton
175114- In service ends the day Canton
175115- In service ends the day Canton
175116- At Landore for Hand back since 01/09

Seeing as so many end in Canton tonight the Northern starting ones tomorrow wont be 175s as there won't be a unit at Crewe.
 
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Western 52 said:
Seems to have departed from Cardiff at 1313 then vanished from Traksy and no more times on RTT..Gone to Canton maybe?
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Maybe no driver to take it to Landore? Chester to Cardiff drivers are able to do in one go as they do that on passenger services
 
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The Prisoner said:
Just caught a glimpse of a 175 heading through Bletchley (on a service travelling the other way and wasn't expecting it). 5Q50 Crewe Gresty Green to Ilford EMUD https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03444/2023-09-29/detailed
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How many are there now at Ilford? It must be a few.
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Also overtook a pair of 321s a few minutes earlier heading from Clacton to Walton Old Junction which seemed a bit random 5Q34 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K06397/2023-09-29/detailed
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Yes that was a storage run.
 
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The Prisoner said:
Just caught a glimpse of a 175 heading through Bletchley (on a service travelling the other way and wasn't expecting it). 5Q50 Crewe Gresty Green to Ilford EMUD https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03444/2023-09-29/detailed

Also overtook a pair of 321s a few minutes earlier heading from Clacton to Walton Old Junction which seemed a bit random 5Q34 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K06397/2023-09-29/detailed
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175010 has moved to Ilford
 
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The Prisoner said:
Just caught a glimpse of a 175 heading through Bletchley (on a service travelling the other way and wasn't expecting it). 5Q50 Crewe Gresty Green to Ilford EMUD https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03444/2023-09-29/detailed
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There is a return path in for tomorrow, albiet to Chester instead of Crewe

Realtime Trains | 5Q40 0952 Ilford E.M.U.D. to Chester D.M.U.D. | 30/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q40 0952 departure from Ilford E.M.U.D. to Chester D.M.U.D. on 30/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Whats the plan with the 175s at the moment? Are they expected to be gone by the end of October?

101, 102, 109, 110, 112-115 seem to be the ones in service still sat the moment. Although it sounds like 102 is going to Landore if not gone already.
 
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Jez said:
Whats the plan with the 175s at the moment? Are they expected to be gone by the end of October?

101, 102, 109, 110, 112-115 seem to be the ones in service still sat the moment. Although it sounds like 102 is going to Landore if not gone already.
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102 is stood down at Landore.
 
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