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TfW 15x/17x withdrawals (17x now finished)
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978wta
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I believe it’s been shunted into the shed.
The_Train
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Are all of the 175s now officially stood down by TfW?
pokemonsuper9
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None are out today (According to Realtimetrains' unit search) so it's possible.
I feel like at least 1 or 2 have been out almost every day.
SuperLuke2334
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Yes, all out of service now sadly, and one is not likely to escape again. 109, which worked to Chester yesterday with 101, has already gone with 114 to Crewe Gresty Green for storage.
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TT-ONR-NRN
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And still no hints as to where they're going next. The mystery continues.
The_Train
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I'm sticking with Chiltern
Ewan Hetting
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Are any getting scrapped or are all the units moving to a new TOC?
pokemonsuper9
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We have no clue.
Very little has been said, all we know for certain is Northern and GWR aren't having them
darylyates17
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Did notice a few 175s still at Chester though I assume they'll be moved on very soon.
MalaiseForever
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How many new trains does TfW have working now?
pokemonsuper9
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All 11 231s, 4 230s (006 still out of service), and ~34 197s.
Not sure how to count 67s and the Mk4s in that, but I think there's 8 sets, of which not all are in service.
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MalaiseForever
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Great, thank you.
There's currently 6 active Mk4 sets. 1 is the 5 car set not in service and the 8th set isn't about at all and is currently unknown what's happening to it.
How do we know that? They are perhaps the 2 most reasonable contenders, with 175s and 180s having previously operated various Northern and GWR routes and a shortage of Diesel stock at both operators.
TT-ONR-NRN
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Exactly. One forum member working for them cannot be expected to be infallible.
Techniquest
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As much as I want to know where the 175s will be going, there's no big rush to find out, surely? We'll find out soon enough, and I'd weigh in with an opinion on where I'd like to see them go to, or where I'd not like to, but I won't 
I do think they'd look awesome in green, I'll say that much, but there's another livery I'd love to see them in
17 years of 175s on my local route, and I have some rather happy memories with them. A lot of them I can't remember now, there's just so many after all, so many trips made on 175s and now they are just part of nostalgia. No more jumping on a 175 down to South Wales on an adventure, or positioning oneself in Cheshire for a big trip/visiting family, now it's just all memories
I do think they'd look awesome in green, I'll say that much, but there's another livery I'd love to see them in
17 years of 175s on my local route, and I have some rather happy memories with them. A lot of them I can't remember now, there's just so many after all, so many trips made on 175s and now they are just part of nostalgia. No more jumping on a 175 down to South Wales on an adventure, or positioning oneself in Cheshire for a big trip/visiting family, now it's just all memories
Liverpool 507
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Thank you
I can't seem to find any paths to/from Crewe between now and Tuesday.
They're going to a new train operating company, but we don't know which yet.
The theory that they're not going to Chiltern or Northern is because those two have procurement processes for new trains, but of course any resulting new trains are years away so it's perfectly possible for the 175s to go to either.
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A forum member who has some knowledge of Northern's plans has stated many times that Northern are not taking the 175s, but I've no idea why pokemonsuper9 says GWR has been ruled out.
TT-ONR-NRN
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And we are yet to see evidence to support that, only sulking when a source is asked for. Also, you do not need to embolden.
pokemonsuper9
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But it was one source that at one point said they talked to someone higher up in GWR staff at a station and they said they would not be interested in them.
I do think my wording may have been a bit too generous with "for certain", for lots of reasons.
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As the 175s now finished with Transport for Wales the speculation on what might happen to the class is here https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-175-future-speculation.218095/
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61653 HTAFC
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Northern don't have a shortage of diesel stock, they've been able to release 150s to both TfW and WMR/LNWR.
Them having worked for Northern's predecessors twenty years ago is neither here nor there: quite a few of those routes are now electrified in part or in full, or no longer part of present-day Northern. The area of Northern they're usually suggested for is the North East: an area they have never worked previously and aren't cleared for. They're also not cleared for the cross-Pennine routes they'd have to traverse to get there.
warwickshire
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Meanwhile today Friday 20th October 2023 175001 passed 319433 and 319217 at Milton Keynes Central, on the 5Q42 1601 Ilford emud to Crewe Gresty Lane. So 175001 is now at Crewe Gresty Lane. With the 319 Veterans from the late eighties, and possibly the 175 from the turn of the Century all facing uncertainty and Withdrawal. However ironic how two fleets from two different tocs, should meet, with both facing Withdrawal. Of which recent use until Early on this week has just ended. Another chapter ends,
47584Suffolk
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Currently four Class 175s at Ilford. After 175001 left there yesterday bound for Crewe, this left 175005/08*/09/10. (* 008 = reformed set from part 008 and part 101).
Are there any clues as to why they are there? Apologies if I've missed this earlier in thread. Thanks.
Are there any clues as to why they are there? Apologies if I've missed this earlier in thread. Thanks.
SuperLuke2334
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008 is there for fire damage repairs. The other 3 are there for some sort of hand-back work I imagine.