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The independent inquiry into allegations of sexual harassment and bullying within TSSA has now concluded.

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because no evidence was presented to the investigation! The report was commissioned to investigate alleged harassment of women by men based upon evidence presented. This is not a report into possibilities. It is a report into specific allegations.

Your stance is that when presented with allegations of burglaryl the police should investigate murder, just in case!

As is set out above: Black Lives Matter does not equal White Lives Don't Matter

The preamble only talks in generalities and doesn’t address the specific allegations. It could have been written in a more neutral way. As I noted about it appears from the wording of the preamble that the author only considers that this kind of abuse can be perpetrated against women.

Choosing to word it in a more neutral way wouldn’t have in any way detracted from the specific conclusions reached, and might have avoided readers questioning the independence/bias of the author.
 
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The preamble only talks in generalities and doesn’t address the specific allegations. It could have been written in a more neutral way. As I noted about it appears from the wording of the preamble that the author only considers that this kind of abuse can be perpetrated against women.

Choosing to word it in a more neutral way wouldn’t have in any way detracted from the specific conclusions reached, and might have avoided readers questioning the independence/bias of the author.
ok - fair point - however i don't think that if i was investigating specific allegations of abuse of men by woman or other men i would make reference to abuse of women by men in my report UNLESS my terms of reference mandated such AND/OR i had evidence to suggest it had occured in the bdy i was investigating.
 

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And you’ve said you don’t have faith in the report as a result, and have discredited it.
"Discredit" is a fairly strong term. I don't believe the report's writer deliberately lied or anything like that.
This report is into reported sexual harassment of women by male figures of seniority. Have a think why there is no suggestion or mention of men being harassed.
Once again, I am not criticising the report for not mentioning harassment of men by women in the context of the TSSA (though whether or not that says there was no harassment of that nature is another thing). I am criticizing it over its foreward that talks about sexual harassment etc. in a general sense in a manner that makes it clear the writer does not think of sexual harassment of men by women as something that happens or is as bad as sexual harassment of women by men.
 

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Even if you were correct that it wasn't considered are you suggesting Kennedy would have hidden it if it had come up in the interviews?
It wasn't within her terms of reference, so ......
Was there any suggestions or allegations made of this nature?
We don't know and it wasn't within the terms of reference so the report is of no assistance in finding out whether there were or not.
because no evidence was presented to the investigation! The report was commissioned to investigate alleged harassment of women by men based upon evidence presented. This is not a report into possibilities. It is a report into specific allegations.

Your stance is that when presented with allegations of burglary the police should investigate murder, just in case!

As is set out above: Black Lives Matter does not equal White Lives Don't Matter
If I'd been commissioning the report I'd have wanted it to cover all types of harassment, if only to avoid any accusations of discrimination, bias or damage limitation.
 

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It wasn't within her terms of reference, so ......

We don't know and it wasn't within the terms of reference so the report is of no assistance in finding out.

If I'd been commissioning the report I'd have wanted it to cover all types of harassment, if only to avoid any accusations of discrimination, bias or damage limitation.
What a ridiculous idea. The only accusations of bias are from men who have nothing to do with the report other than speak anonymously about their hurt feelings at a paragraph in it.
 

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What a ridiculous idea. The only accusations of bias are from men who have nothing to do with the report other than speak anonymously about their hurt feelings at a paragraph in it.
If you mean me, my feelings are not hurt but I am disappointed at the wording of that paragraph and narrow terms of reference of the inquiry. As I said upthread, I'd be much happier if the paragraph had been gender-neutral and the report confirmed that the list of cases mentioned was exhaustive.

Now, I have to get to the pub to watch the rugby. I probably won't be posting in this thread again.
 

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This has been a fairly dissatisfying thread to read if I’m honest. I think we’re probably best to just wrap things up now.

Thanks everyone
 
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