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[BRX]

I believe they meant 4 signalling blocks/berths (well, 4 for each of the two tracks).

Yes, that's right.

I'm not confused about the layout; I know it quite well. It's just understanding how exactly the two maps overlap.

Lewisham Vale Junction - where the top lines leave your first image - is at the bottom left of your second image, and clearly labelled.

Yes you are right. I should have been looking more carefully. I see now that this means that the 4 blocks shown on the other map have to be located prior to that junction.

And from watching the maps more closely, I think that the last block of the 4 on the first map, is the same one as the one shown just below Lewisham Vale Jn on the second map. So that is where the overlap occurs.

I think for some reason trains often don't appear in that overlap block at all; they sometimes seem to skip it, and that is probably what has prompted my confusion.

 

[Steve Harris]

I believe they meant 4 signalling blocks/berths (well, 4 for each of the two tracks).

Arh yes, now I've re read it i see what he means. TD* berths (to give them their correct name).

*Train Desciber

I think for some reason trains often don't appear in that overlap block at all; they sometimes seem to skip it, and that is probably what has prompted my confusion.

One thing to note with traksy is that IF 2 maps are linked a T/F *place name* is shown at the break between maps.

On some maps I've noticed this T/F link doesn’t take you to the adjoining map, this is because there is a break in data between the 2 maps (ie no TD berths data is available^). The other thing to note is sometimes trains skip berths due to upgrades to the signaling but traksy hasn't been told how the data feed has been changed, and subsequently the code(s) updated to make the maps work correctly. One case in point is the ECML at Welwyn North (which has been upgraded ready for ETCS), with trains skipping berths on several TD berth websites (Opentrains, signalmaps etc).

^ one such example is Manea to Peterborough, which is still mechanical signaling and the maps don't overlap because there is a break between the two due to lack of data.

 

[BRX]

Here's another location where I'm often tracking a train from one map to the other (this is a complex area with multiple junctions and tracks running under and over various viaducts).
In the screenshots below I've put the maps next to each other, in overlapping web browser windows.
The overlap on these two maps is clear, because they both show Wandsworth Rd.
Note the pair of tracks running leftwards from platforms 1 & 2 of Wandsworth Rd. First there's a junction to the left that runs over a bridge, then a junction to the left that runs under that bridge, then straight on. The route I'm normally interested in is the one that runs under the bridge ... towards Longhedge Junction.
Sometimes these maps are not consistent with each other. For example note the progress of train 9H45 which only appears on the right-hand map, and not in the equivalent berths on the left hand one. Also note the two T3 labels which appear on one map but not the other.

 

[Steve Harris]

I think your forgetting one thing, the maps are free !! Other sites charge! So perhaps you should just be thankful for what it is (faults and all) considering it's a free to use service ?

If you have issues with the site, I suggest you use the email link on the sites front page (info@traksy) as you will probably get a quicker response than on here.

I've used that email link myself and had a prompt response and the issue on a map was corrected promptly.

 

[BRX]

I think your forgetting one thing, the maps are free !!

No, I'm certainly not forgetting this! I'm just offering my observations and am grateful that the maps exist in any form.

 

[Steve Harris]

No, I'm certainly not forgetting this! I'm just offering my observations and am grateful that the maps exist in any form.

Which are coming across (to me at least) as nit picking. As I said before, your best contacting the site owner through the website. He is a top bloke who resolves issues promptly when directly notified (compared to other sites).

 

[BRX]

Which are coming across (to me at least) as nit picking. As I said before, your best contacting the site owner through the website. He is a top bloke who resolves issues promptly when directly notified (compared to other sites).

Ok. But I did have a skim through this thread before posting on it, to see if was an appropriate place to post comments on how Traksy works. And there are several pages of people doing that. Also, I'd prefer to post those comments here where others can tell me if it's me that's missing something, and where there can be a bit of discussion, than to email the site owner, because that feels more like making a complaint and expecting a response.

 

[takno]

Ok. But I did have a skim through this thread before posting on it, to see if was an appropriate place to post comments on how Traksy works. And there are several pages of people doing that. Also, I'd prefer to post those comments here where others can tell me if it's me that's missing something, and where there can be a bit of discussion, than to email the site owner, because that feels more like making a complaint and expecting a response.

I'm quite happy for issues to be discussed here. It's usually worthwhile dropping a message to info@ as well, just so that it makes it to my to-do list, but the conversation can be useful.

I don't get any official notification of changes, so it's quite possible that I don't discover really quite big changes for several months unless people let me know, and particularly around London even I can forget just how many maps some of the lines are on, so it's easy to miss one when I'm doing updates.

 

[Edinburgh2000]

I see that Traksy now shows the new stations at Cameron Bridge and Leven - thank you! But the train data seems to be struggling to accept a stop at CB, or termination at Leven without going on to Brent Cross West (and vice versa)! Any ideas why that is?


(Copied here from the Levenmouth project update thread where I wrongly posted earlier.)

 

[takno]

I see that Traksy now shows the new stations at Cameron Bridge and Leven - thank you! But the train data seems to be struggling to accept a stop at CB, or termination at Leven without going on to Brent Cross West (and vice versa)! Any ideas why that is?
(Copied here from the Levenmouth project update thread where I wrongly posted earlier.)

Hmm. I've got a pretty good idea of why it's doing that, but actually changing it might be a bit more of a mission. It's correct on the beta version of the site, which has a rather better schedule engine, so at the worst it should fix itself in time

 

[td97]

I'm quite happy for issues to be discussed here

Please see details for a bug between Bolton and Entwistle.
The duplicated service (to denote the bi-di direction) has differing schedule information depending on which one the user selects - one is the correct service, whereas one shows the previous service with the same headcode. The photos attached are paired.

TRAKSY.UK

Live train maps and timetables

traksy.uk

 

[Jessicas Dad]

I'm quite happy for issues to be discussed here. It's usually worthwhile dropping a message to info@ as well, just so that it makes it to my to-do list, but the conversation can be useful.

I don't get any official notification of changes, so it's quite possible that I don't discover really quite big changes for several months unless people let me know, and particularly around London even I can forget just how many maps some of the lines are on, so it's easy to miss one when I'm doing updates.

I know you are really busy and totally appreciate your fantastic site.

I dropped a message to info@ in February about some issues between Stirling & Dunblane and was just curious if it's on your to-do list?

Not a big issue so no worries at all if it's not a priority.

Thanks

 

[takno]

I know you are really busy and totally appreciate your fantastic site.

I dropped a message to info@ in February about some issues between Stirling & Dunblane and was just curious if it's on your to-do list?

Not a big issue so no worries at all if it's not a priority.

Thanks

Stirling to Dunblane is a bit of a mess. There's a few berths which have been added to the system, but it seems to be a pretty manual patch-up job and I can't make a whole lot of sense of the info. I think the map as it stands is probably as good as it's going to get prior to any resignalling unfortunately

 

[Jessicas Dad]

Stirling to Dunblane is a bit of a mess. There's a few berths which have been added to the system, but it seems to be a pretty manual patch-up job and I can't make a whole lot of sense of the info. I think the map as it stands is probably as good as it's going to get prior to any resignalling unfortunately

Thanks,

I'll just remember to search for Dunblane instead of Stirling as that shows the fuller map.

Appreciate the speedy reply!

 

[takno]

Thanks,

I'll just remember to search for Dunblane instead of Stirling as that shows the fuller map.

Appreciate the speedy reply!

Ahh, I see what you mean. I've copied over the messy version so that it exists on both maps now

 

[Peter0124]

Does anyone notice that when you minimise the tab on mobile (or switch to another tab) the map stops updating, meaning you need to then reload the page?

 

[takno]

Does anyone notice that when you minimise the tab on mobile (or switch to another tab) the map stops updating, meaning you need to then reload the page?

That doesn't happen for me. What phone/browser are you using?

 

[WirralLine]

Does anyone notice that when you minimise the tab on mobile (or switch to another tab) the map stops updating, meaning you need to then reload the page?

Does the same for me too. Android, Samsung Galaxy S22 using Firefox or Chrome (same on my work Samsung A cover thing). Usually have to close and reopen it.

 

[takno]

Please see details for a bug between Bolton and Entwistle.
The duplicated service (to denote the bi-di direction) has differing schedule information depending on which one the user selects - one is the correct service, whereas one shows the previous service with the same headcode. The photos attached are paired.

TRAKSY.UK

Live train maps and timetables

traksy.uk

I've removed the duplication on this (it was there because it's the fringe between Piccadilly and Preston boxes, and the data has to be filtered to work properly on a map). I've also fixed the mapping so that it should always represent the correct train.

Does the same for me too. Android, Samsung Galaxy S22 using Firefox or Chrome (same on my work Samsung A cover thing). Usually have to close and reopen it.

Interesting. For me it just keeps collecting all the updates and then rushes through them all in about 10 seconds. I'll try to do wider testing on the new version to avoid replicating the bug, but it's probably a bit late to fix it on the old version now.

 

[Deepgreen]

Traksy has 'sat down' (for me at least) at the moment. I'm getting "Connection Failed - Retry" or old data. It may just be me. I have been looking at the Chessington branch and approaches to Waterloo. BTW, something I have meant to ask for ages is, why are some trains that are, say, 1 minute late, shown in red, while others that are 2 minutes late are shown in yellow?

 

[takno]

Traksy has 'sat down' (for me at least) at the moment. I'm getting "Connection Failed - Retry" or old data. It may just be me. I have been looking at the Chessington branch and approaches to Waterloo. BTW, something I have meant to ask for ages is, why are some trains that are, say, 1 minute late, shown in red, while others that are 2 minutes late are shown in yellow?

Everything should be stable again now. Unfortunately with current traffic volumes it's only safe to do updates to the schedules at night, and I forgot and tried to trigger one earlier

 

[Deepgreen]

Everything should be stable again now. Unfortunately with current traffic volumes it's only safe to do updates to the schedules at night, and I forgot and tried to trigger one earlier

Thanks for the update. It wasn't a complaint, BTW, as the site is very much appreciated, but more of a note.

 

[takno]

Thanks for the update. It wasn't a complaint, BTW, as the site is very much appreciated, but more of a note.

Completely understood. I'm just a bit frustrated that I forgot and broke it for a bit!

 

[td97]

I've removed the duplication on this (it was there because it's the fringe between Piccadilly and Preston boxes, and the data has to be filtered to work properly on a map). I've also fixed the mapping so that it should always represent the correct train.

Much appreciated, thank you!

 

[MrJeeves]

I noticed the other night that my ECML train seemed to disappear from the map before reappearing in the next berth a little bit later.

Screenshot attached showing which berths it disappeared between, in case there's some missing berth on the map or something else at play.

May well just be data limitations of some sort!

 

[takno]

I noticed the other night that my ECML train seemed to disappear from the map before reappearing in the next berth a little bit later.

Screenshot attached showing which berths it disappeared between, in case there's some missing berth on the map or something else at play.

May well just be data limitations of some sort!

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Hmm, that's in the ECTS section. You do sometimes get extra berths appearing in some of the setups. I'll take a look and see what's shown up in the last few months

 

[skyhigh]

A very, very minor point - but on the map for Kirkstall Forge the position seems to be a little bit out. In the attached screenshot 2H49 is actually in the platform rather than a couple of berths past it.

 

[ainsworth74]

Interesting. For me it just keeps collecting all the updates and then rushes through them all in about 10 seconds. I'll try to do wider testing on the new version to avoid replicating the bug, but it's probably a bit late to fix it on the old version now.

I've noticed that behaviour but only when my phone is in power saving mode (I'm on Android 13). If it's unrestricted it merrily keeps updating Traksy in the background but if it's in power saving to eek out some more battery that's when it will stop doing updates.

 

[MrJeeves]

I opted to subscribe because I thought that's only fair given how much I use the website.

I went to try to see Cardiff Central on the new map, but it just seemed to take me to Glasgow Queen Street instead

I assume this map either hasn't been migrated over yet, or it's an issue with the fact it seems to be attempting to browse to Cardiff Bus's TIPLOC?


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[takno]

A very, very minor point - but on the map for Kirkstall Forge the position seems to be a little bit out. In the attached screenshot 2H49 is actually in the platform rather than a couple of berths past it.

I've got this fixed on the maps but it will probably not release for a week or so

I've noticed that behaviour but only when my phone is in power saving mode (I'm on Android 13). If it's unrestricted it merrily keeps updating Traksy in the background but if it's in power saving to eek out some more battery that's when it will stop doing updates.

Ahh, that would make sense. I don't use power-saving mode because it seems to eke out the power by turning off all the things I actually want to use and disabling background on all the apps I'm waiting for notifications on.

I think basically the important thing is to detect when the connection has gone or hasn't received any updates for a while, which I'll try to make sure is a bit more reliable on the new version

I opted to subscribe because I thought that's only fair given how much I use the website.

I went to try to see Cardiff Central on the new map, but it just seemed to take me to Glasgow Queen Street instead

I assume this map either hasn't been migrated over yet, or it's an issue with the fact it seems to be attempting to browse to Cardiff Bus's TIPLOC?

Interesting - I can't reproduce that in any of my browsers. Is it on an iPad by any chance?

The reason it's showing glasgow queen street is because it's defaulting to map number 1 in the absence of a correct map to use, which is probably a mistake. All the maps are migrated over, so if you are able to use keyboard to navigate to the right option, or just type CDQ and hit enter, it should work.