It's unusual to get single deckers on the 66. I live on the route. I caught the 0935 from Keighley today and commented to the driver, Dale, about it being a single decker.
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Which suggests nothing more sinister than one of the usual deckers being off for whatever reason
The A59 is closed at Kex Gill, which is east of Blubberhouses, from today. That's between Skipton and Harrogate. So the Harrogate Bus company Saturdays only 59 Harrogate - Skipton bus is diverted and running to a reduced emergency timetable starting tomorrow. No word from the council about how long but the road is moving. Sooner the bypass is completed the better.
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Leedsbusman
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Yes, 2776 is off with accident damage. 1726 is the single decker in use today, the machine is wrongly coded.
WYIS, as has the East Yorkshire forum here, are reporting that Transdev will no longer operating the York 22/23, 181 and 194 services. Quite ironic since they just moved to new garage premises and their York city services (24 etc) are up for review and possible re-tendering.
dodecahedron67
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Correct. Lost due to transdev’s unwillingness to run the associated school routes
What associated school services? The 22 includes workings that divert to serve schools at Ripon and Boroughbridge.
YorkRailFan
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Transdev has run 24, 25 and 26 into the ground. They sometimes use the E200MMCs we were promised (26 is one of my locals) but nearly always ends up as a Minibus. I've been thinking the past few years that I wish Arriva had it (Arriva operated 24, 25 and 26 before Transdev)
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Leedsbusman
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Indeed there aren’t any associated school services - just diversions on the route. NY only award on price so EY will have bid less. I doubt NY will have shared the bid details with a First York driver either
dodecahedron67
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The Castleline/194 has associated school run 225R (or something like that)
I’ve also had this info confirmed to me by both people in EY and transdev
Plus i’m not a driver
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Leedsbusman
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So has EY won the school run?The 194 has associated school run 225R (or something like that)
I’ve also had this info confirmed to me by both people in EY and transdev
Plus i’m not a driver
dodecahedron67
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If what I’ve been told is correct, yes
Leedsbusman
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But it’s not on the list of routes quoted elsewhere.
I find the 24 very reliable at the moment, although in the past it has had cancellations. Nobody likes the horrible minibuses. Arriva often used to miss bits of the route out especially in Acomb. The Transdev drivers are not as friendly as the Arriva ones were and when I use East Yorkshire’s 12 here in York they are definitely a friendly bunch.
YorkRailFan
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I don't even bother with 26, I prefer to walk to the City Centre or get a bus from Tadcaster Road if needs be. It's far quicker for me to walk/cycle over Millennium Bridge to Fulford than get the bus.
The 225R is a North Yorkshire Council minibus from Burythorpe between Malton and Stamford Bridge.
There is a 226R worked by Transdev from Barthorpe which is even closer to Stamford Bridge and consequently is well away from the 181/194 routes.
The 226R starts at 0802 reaching Norton College at 0835 with the afternoon return at 1410 or 1510 and is not interworked with those services which last Friday for example were worked by Versa 207
Maybe Transdev did not want to contiuue operating the 226R and a story has arose as a result re the 181/194.
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East Yorkshire has also apparently won the 29 from Reliance, so it looks to be that EY have just decided to put in aggressive bids for these York area services, rather than any particular issue with the Transdev bid
There always has to be a conspiracy when it comes to Transdev though. If it had been the opposite and they’d won tenders distant from their depot there’d be posts saying they were over stretching themselves and that the services would Be impossible to work reliably
There always has to be a conspiracy when it comes to Transdev though. If it had been the opposite and they’d won tenders distant from their depot there’d be posts saying they were over stretching themselves and that the services would Be impossible to work reliably
Dropping the 226R probably ties in with the expected closure of Malton beyond an outstation. The 8 and 21 worked by Starbcek were part of the previous tendering so possibly they have gone elsewhere as well as no mentions have been made of them in the electrification plans
dodecahedron67
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It was Malton that told me the school run dropping was the reason for loss of 22/23/181/194. Asked someone in EY Pocklington and they confirmed it.
Aside from that, EY’s increased presence in North Yorkshire/York is all a very deliberate practice to try and gain more of the core York City market
Aside from that, EY’s increased presence in North Yorkshire/York is all a very deliberate practice to try and gain more of the core York City market
The 226R interworks off the 181/194 both morning and evening, last Friday was an exception
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Leedsbusman
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So EY has confirmed they have won the 226R as part of the 181/194 tender?
dodecahedron67
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I didn’t ask that so can’t say for sure - I just asked if there was any truth in the school bus scenario
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As was then as a random pick of Monday December 11th?
The timings of the 226R are such that the 181/194 vehicle is at Sand Hutton heading for York when the am working commences and the same in the pm for the 1510 while at 1410 it is approaching Malton from Castle Howard
dodecahedron67
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https://bustimes.org/vehicles/ycst-210-yj12mzt?date=2024-02-01 AM 226R on 181/Castleline laterAs was then as a random pick of Monday December 11th?
The timings of the 226R are such that the 181/194 vehicle is at Sand Hutton heading for York when the am working commences and the same in the pm for the 1510 while at 1410 it is approaching Malton from Castle Howard
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/ycst-207-yj12mzn?date=2024-02-01 PM 226R interworking with 181/194
For the AM peak, an outstabled versa runs the 226R before working back to York on 181/Castleline
For the PM peak, the 1300 181/Castleline arrives in Malton 1430, allows for a 45min break before forming the PM 226R, then the 194 before running dead back to Rawcliffe depot as this is all a York duty
No wonder they wanted to drop it when it needs an extra bus
Completely different tendering - those are City of York not North Yorkshire Council
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