The York and County, and the Flyer one takes you to the same timetable list. No mention in the coloured boxes of the Otley - Ilkley - Skipton service. But t least York and County gets its own box now.
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A further issue with the audio announcements on the D1: one of the stops on Scott Hill in Clayton West is announced as "Whistlestop Valley" despite being some distance from the main entrance of that attraction. Now there may or may not be a footpath which links to the railway from there, but a few stops later at Park Mill Way (which is the main entrance to Clayton West Station) the announcement says "if you're riding the Kirklees Light Railway, alight here".
If the railway is committed to their rebranding, this might confuse tourists as they could well alight at the first stop (regardless of which direction the bus is going, as the route on this section goes the same way around the loop whether heading to or from Denby Dale).
If the railway is committed to their rebranding, this might confuse tourists as they could well alight at the first stop (regardless of which direction the bus is going, as the route on this section goes the same way around the loop whether heading to or from Denby Dale).
They did not get access to the vehicles till Sunday so the launch had no effect. I do wonder what words Alex Hornby has said to Arriva and whether there is some clause in the sale Transdevs lawyers will be looking at to get some compensation for the wrecks they have been landed with.
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Even more reason then to concentrate on getting the buses on the road than doing the launch.
Where have you heard that they haven’t been running services?
Also I don’t see what ‘the launch’ has to do with it, are you suggesting they didn’t run services on Sunday because they were busy rebranding them?
Just seen this this evening:
www.leeds-live.co.uk
On one of my local 'Grumbler' Facebook groups, someone who reportedly saw the incident has said:
A Facebook video of CCTV image showing a white car attempting to perform a 'u-turn' in front of a bus, which clips the white car, the bus swerves to avoid the white car and collides with a large SUV and crashes into a newsagents.
Dramatic pictures as bus 'loses control' and ploughs into Leeds shop
Wetherby's Market Place was closed after the crash
On one of my local 'Grumbler' Facebook groups, someone who reportedly saw the incident has said:
A Facebook video of CCTV image showing a white car attempting to perform a 'u-turn' in front of a bus, which clips the white car, the bus swerves to avoid the white car and collides with a large SUV and crashes into a newsagents.
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Could easily be looking at fatalities there if those pedestrians were a few steps off to the side... Scary.
It’s just a blessing that Wetherby isn’t as busy as it usually is at the moment.
It could easily have been much worse. There were often large crowds outside the Wetherby Whaler during lockdown when you couldn't go in. I haven't been back to Wetherby since I moved down to London last month, so I'm not sure of the current practice there.
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Please refer to post #1778.
If you can't see that having a public launch while at the same time not being able to deliver your product for whatever reason is not great then I don't know what else to say.
Not that I can see on that web page; understand that their is one on facebook.
The one I posted a link to immediately underneath the post?
Suppose so but I do not use Facebook so cannot access it
The public launch of Team Pennine was last Thursday/Friday when the services were still run by Yorkshire Tiger
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Conditions of sale. Transdev have been working at the locations for around a month now. Arriva will have to ensure that the vehicles are in a position to operate before the deal is full closed.
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A similar thing happened when D&G took over parts of Arriva Midlands earlier this year, and they suffered badly from vehicle availability (vehicles being inoperable). I don't know what happened in that situation from the legal perspective, if anything was done. But all this information was in the public domain, so I'd be amazed if Transdev didn't consider the same thing could happen to them and plan accordingly drafting in spare stock?
Again, we’ve had one report of two trips not running on Sunday, which may have been due to a staff shortage in any case
Yet the discussion is still carrying on that there is a massive vehicle problem with missed trips left right and centre and emergency measures of other vehicles having to be drafted in. There is no evidence this is the case.
Yet the discussion is still carrying on that there is a massive vehicle problem with missed trips left right and centre and emergency measures of other vehicles having to be drafted in. There is no evidence this is the case.
And on that note, there are various photos online showing vehicles having been partially re-panelled in recent weeks, leaving only part of the Yorkshire Tiger fleetname visible, so it seems there was a forced effort to deliver a certain standard of vehicle to Transdev
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Fair enough - in which case I take all of what I've said back!
TheGrandWazoo
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It should also be pointed out that Alex Hornby had thanked Arriva for their professional approach in due diligence and releasing staff to participate in the launch.
The parallels with the D&G purchase of Cannock are perhaps nearer to the fact that in both instances, the newer/better fleet was spirited away and didn't form part of the sale. Therefore, you have a very elderly fleet that both D&G and Transdev will need to get to grips with (and are).
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32! Bloody hell. Pardon my ignorance on this, but is this due to the Bradford LEZ at all? And is there a time frame on this? It would seem strange for Flyer to get new buses after the Versas have been refurbished so recently.
TheGrandWazoo
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Yeah, so by the time the infrastructure is sorted and the vehicles delivered, you're probably looking at late 2022 if not 2023. The fact that the Versas got refurbished last year won't make much difference by that time.
Yes and when you think about ticking all the right boxes both to make the bid look good, and from Transdev's perspective of being high profile routes, and being run by single decks, the Flyer will be right up there.
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Brooke
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There’s also an implementation timeline (if approved) at page 22 of this document, which broadly matches those timelines: https://www.westyorks-ca.gov.uk/med...f-interest-final-redacted-for-publication.pdf.
I believe the routes can also be inferred from the maps elsewhere in the document, but I’ve not had a proper look
Not sure but a few pictures are on twitter about improvements being made at the depot.
Also Team Pennine now has Pride of the North branded 1717, 1718 and 1720 which have come across from Rosso.
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Thanks for that link and, as I suspected, the infrastructure for Transdev is booked for 2022, with vehicles in 2022 and 2023, with infrastructure listed for both Keighley and Idle.
And yes, the routes can be identified on the map for First and Arriva as well