£500 for a couple of hours work? Really? Meanwhile outside of the railway bubble you’d be told to s** off for expecting that. There’s certainly a sense of entitlement amongst some rail staff. Time and a half yes but expecting 10 hours regardless of hours worked is outrageous.
But when you factor in the cost of cancelling the service, it’s by far the lesser of the two. Or it was before the emergency management contracts.
The agreement was pre-Covid and that expired Dec 21 I think?
Yes was around 2018 I think.
Ant that is the crux of the matter. Things have changed. Rail staff who think the good times will continue because they did in the past are kidding themselves. If drivers are waiting for an RDW offer to match the previous one they are going to be waiting a very long time.
Indeed that should be self evident given that ERMAs and NRCs are a transition to the proposed GBR Passenger Service Contracts where it is expected that the cost risk will fall on the managing operator and fare risk on the DfT such lucrative deals are surely unlikely ever to return.
But where do you draw the line? If the service is going to cost thousands to cancel, should the driver be paid £1000? £2000? There comes a point where the amount of money on offer becomes unsustainable and can lead to additional problems that weren't forecast or intended. It was that logic that lead to the cap on bankers bonuses - it was felt that financiers were taking unnecessary risks in order to win huge bonuses.
From a business sense whichever is cheapest. I’d rather pay a driver £500 instead of paying out £1000 or whatever is the fee for cancelling the train.
The downside to those is there’s no penalty for cancelling trains, so you end up with mass cancellations.
Preston drivers do sign 802’s they trained for around a year on them during the Covid pandemic
It doesn’t have the same affect anymore. All that happens is they run reduced timetables.
The solution to this is of course to employ enough drivers to reduce the need for RDW or at least the regular use of it.
I agree
Indeed they do, but the post I was replying to was specifically about Manchester crew
....and no alternative Northern Calder Valley services today!
TPE don't have access to Leeman Road in York whilst the track upgrades are going on. Therefore are limited on what 185s were available from Ardwick and what was left overnight at Hull/Cleethorpes.
Thought they have limited access from 29th?
Was on about today...
I know, but your reply reads as though no access throughout the works, was only asking!
That sounds like really good management; presumably by the DfT.
Presumably there was a compelling reason for not temporarily stabling at an alternative location which a layperson might perceive to be a less insane option?
How do you propose infrastructure is ever maintained/renewed in the vicinity of depots?
A six-car set should have been left at Hull, then?
No-one is suggesting that it shouldn't be maintained.
