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Trivia: Longest Bus Route in the UK?

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banthechavs

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I am not surprised the 22 route has not been mentioned in Manchester. It takes well over two hours to complete the journey and is always on normal buses. It goes all round the houses, has to be one of the slowest routes in terms of MPH.

The route is

STOCKPORT > BURNAGE > WITHINGTON > CHORLTON > STRETFORD > URMSTON > TRAFFORD CENTRE > ECCLES > SWINTON > WORSLEY > FARNWORTH > BOLTON

I guess it is really functions as a local service route and nobody is expected to stay on it from Stockport to Bolton. Oddly it is run by Stagecoach and Firstbus and each others weekly is valid but not their day riders. Its so damn confusing and I have many arguments with the drivers about this. Thankfully now I drive I rarely need to use it.
 
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Going well back into my memory, and posters will need to help me here, in the 70s there used to be a GMT Manchester Airport-Stockport-Ashton-Oldham-Rochdale-Bury-Bolton Limited Stop service run by coaches hourly. Can't for the life of me remember its number or name though.
 

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Going well back into my memory, and posters will need to help me here, in the 70s there used to be a GMT Manchester Airport-Stockport-Ashton-Oldham-Rochdale-Bury-Bolton Limited Stop service run by coaches hourly. Can't for the life of me remember its number or name though.

That was the Trans-Lancs Express, which later had route number 400.
 

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McEwans used to run a 131 from Newcastle - Edinburgh. I think it just goes to Galashiels now though. Years ago in NBC days there used to be a regular Newcastle to Edinburgh service operated by United and there used to be a Glasgow to Whitley Bay service in the summer during the same era!
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How long is the 685 Carlisle to Newcastle?


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2hrs30 IIRC
 

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Probably the Preston Bus 31 but that's probably just the slowness of it all. Savick-Lea-Preston = ouch. That takes an hour...
If we're talking about time taken per mile then the 31 is a serious competitor.
The 71 Lyme Regis Orbital also competes, like 45 minutes to get round what's essentially an oversized village.
 

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Probably the Preston Bus 31 but that's probably just the slowness of it all. Savick-Lea-Preston = ouch. That takes an hour...
If we're talking about time taken per mile then the 31 is a serious competitor.
The 71 Lyme Regis Orbital also competes, like 45 minutes to get round what's essentially an oversized village.

Some of the roads around the town/village are not good for driving around at all. Very narrow and winding.
 

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........ and there used to be a Glasgow to Whitley Bay service in the summer during the same era!

Ah yes, the legendary 515. Almost 7½ hours on one trip with the driver taking his meal break in Galashiels. Marvellous.

Almost managed to take the 0835 from Whitley Bay one day in the late 70's but a last minute change of plans scuppered that. Still hurts not having done that one...:D
 

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Ah yes, the legendary 515. Almost 7½ hours on one trip with the driver taking his meal break in Galashiels. Marvellous.

Almost managed to take the 0835 from Whitley Bay one day in the late 70's but a last minute change of plans scuppered that. Still hurts not having done that one...:D

Looking at my old timetables (from before my time I must add!) there looks like there were some epic bus journies. It amazes me that they were normal stage service and not pre-booked coach services. Imagine how many Twirlies would be on that if it still ran!
 

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Going well back into my memory, and posters will need to help me here, in the 70s there used to be a GMT Manchester Airport-Stockport-Ashton-Oldham-Rochdale-Bury-Bolton Limited Stop service run by coaches hourly. Can't for the life of me remember its number or name though.

That was the Trans-Lancs Express, which later had route number 400.

Indeed it was, it was a Daily extention, i caught the 400 one day Bolton-Wythenshawe, although the Airport extention was short lived, being relegated to Summer Sundays until the mid 90s.

Not that long by some routes, but long enough, there was the GM Buses 34 Liverpool-Manchester, which went via Astley, Leigh & St Helens & took 2hrs 15min, which before D-Reg was a joint service 39, deviating via Tyldesley rather than Astley.

Also before D-reg there was a Ribble X27 Liverpool-Skipton which took 4hrs.
 

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Not quite as long as some of these but in the 50's there was a Rushden - Kings Cross service which must have taken 3 hours or a little over. Birch Bros 203. 60, 65 miles?

The vehicles were a bit odd - double deck, with the luggage space at the front upstairs, so you couldn't sit there for the view. Can't remember if they had bus or coach seating - but it was a stage carriage service, no booking, and at least until somewhere around Hatfield every stop.

The opening of the M1 did for it.
 

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Going back to the Summer of 96, Crosville Wales merged there Coastliner, with the joint North Western/Crosville X8 Banks-Chester to become Llandudno-Banks via Rhyl-Chester-Liverpool-Southport, with some journeys extending to Llandudno Junction Depot. The North Wales extention was operated by North Western & Crosville Wales, with drivers changing vehicles at Chester, the service to North Wales from Banks took 4hrs 30min to 4hrs 40min, & i've still got the timetable for it.

It was a Summer only extention to North Wales, being cut to Banks-Rhyl for the 97 Summer season.
 

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Wasn't the joint Reading-Southend service a stage carriage route?

A feature in the Buses magazine (Issue 667) commemorating Derek Giles's life mentioned the X1, although it left me with the impression that is was a coach route. Unfortunately it did not specify whether pre-booking was required.
 

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Has anyone mentioned Arriva Yorkshire's Wakefield to Keswick yet? It ran during summer 2002 using W-reg
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Has anyone mentioned Arriva Yorkshire's Wakefield to Keswick yet? It ran during summer 2002 using W-reg Volvo B10BLE's.
 

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Has anyone mentioned Arriva Yorkshire's Wakefield to Keswick yet? It ran during summer 2002 using W-reg
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Has anyone mentioned Arriva Yorkshire's Wakefield to Keswick yet? It ran during summer 2002 using W-reg Volvo B10BLE's.

Yes. You ;)

A feature in the Buses magazine (Issue 667) commemorating Derek Giles's life mentioned the X1, although it left me with the impression that is was a coach route. Unfortunately it did not specify whether pre-booking was required.

The later incarnations of the X1 etc, which from my end went as far as Heathrow but could terminate pretty much anywhere in the centre of London, were always stage-based, and on Christmas Day it provided a 1bpd local service along London Road. I believe this practice ceased after the 1998 holiday season, but I may be. What happened in 1998? Oh yes... Arriva were formed :roll: In later years there was competition from Thamesway (the Southend/Basildon operation of Eastern National), courtesy of their City Saver routes; between the two, they were like a poor man's version of the modern Oxford Tube. Part of the routes' problem was that much of their income was based on the Misery Line; when it was working well, as was usually true off-peak, passenger numbers plummeted. At one stage the X1 ran up to every 5 minutes - off-peak, they ran only every hour.

When the LTS got its act together, the two operations combined into one, as a Green Line concern (mainly 721), and operated either once or twice an hour (I forget exactly), initially as a joint run between what were by now Arriva and First. Before too long however First pulled out, leaving only Arrive running the service, and in time they sold to Southend's third bus company, local independent Stephenson's of Essex, who would then pull the plug as well (see below for an interesting fact about the SE X1), citing lost fares - partly because ENCTS passes were valid as far west as Dagenham, and SE only received 50% of the applicable fare for each Pass...

Whilst the route was running under Arriva Green Line, the usual Arriva Southend mess ups were common-place. One early-ish morning 7B journey, which left Thorpe Bay at roughly 0730 for Hockley, could use absolutely anything (it *should* have been a Trident). Sometimes, it would be a Mercedes Vario, but one time it was a Green Line coach (I don't know what exactly though)! Anyone who knows Southend will know it is difficult to turn on to Lifstan Way from Southchurch Boulevard, so imagine doing it in a coach :lol: Meanwhile, in the late afternoon, one 722 journey caught the eye every day. It terminated at Embankment, and was seemingly the only journey all day that was guaranteed to be a Trident! To this day I don't know why...

Anyhow, to summarise, it was officially a coach route; having said that, I do not believe it was ever a pre-booked service, although season tickets were certainly available. But once the LTS was running properly, the service could not compete and died a slow and painful death.

SE X1 Fact: The last standard day of X1 running in Southend (some trials have been run no further east than Stanford-le-Hope though; the most recent ended in May 2009) was July 11th 2008. However, the most recent X1-esque service was actually on January 1st 2012, as part of the annual heritage operation SE run. This year, feeder services ran - including one that ran from Aldgate!
 

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Has anyone mentioned Arriva Yorkshire's Wakefield to Keswick yet? It ran during summer 2002 using W-reg
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Has anyone mentioned Arriva Yorkshire's Wakefield to Keswick yet? It ran during summer 2002 using W-reg Volvo B10BLE's.

Not in this thread, but it featured in the Guess the Bus Station thread, where I used this picture. As can be seen, on 18th August 2002 an L-reg B10B was the bus used.
 

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Anyone mention the Stagecoach Cumbria 555 from Carlisle to Lancaster? That must take a canny while
 

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The 555 was split years ago now, it's now 2 separate routes;
554 Carlisle - Keswick (operated by Carlisle depot) and
555 Keswick - Lancaster (operated by Kendal depot).

I think there's supposed to be connections between the 2 but that rarely works out....
Carlisle -Keswick is about 1 hour, and Keswick - Lancaster is about 3.
 

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Does the 888 Newcastle - Keswick still run?
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and I remember Arriva used to run a Newcastle - Scarborough service in the Summer
 

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The X94 Wrexham-Llangollen-Corwen-Bala-Dolgellau-Barmouth sounds like it should be a long route, but perhaps Wales is smaller than you think. And what about the Trawscymru services - but are they coaches?
 
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