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43055

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That is very true swapped out with 735 and we are hoping to keep it for a few days before it heads for repaint
Now if only it could get onto the villager for a day whilst it is still yellow :lol:
 

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seems a full swift shift is currently not running, unless 702 just isn’t tracking.
One of the Swifts was parked on the depot.

It didn't work red arrow this morning that was a ticket machine swap so it was a coach. But is now out on V3s
Ah the joys of a ticket machine swap. They look heavy and awkward to carry. Then again, so does the Transmach version.
 

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One of the Swifts was parked on the depot.


Ah the joys of a ticket machine swap. They look heavy and awkward to carry. Then again, so does the Transmach version.
They're not that heavy, but can be fiddly to change. Always important to check that the bus is allocated right first, too. This avoids the 'confusion' on sites such as bustimes and the ticketer back office functions, as well.
 

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seems a full swift shift is currently not running, unless 702 just isn’t tracking.
When I left this morning 702 was in the dead lane VOR and just now I was driving up to ashbourne and seems like 701 was in a bit of bother again lol
 
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They're not that heavy, but can be fiddly to change. Always important to check that the bus is allocated right first, too. This avoids the 'confusion' on sites such as bustimes and the ticketer back office functions, as well.
Do the machines need to be physically moved - some operator's machines are simply left on board but re-programmed.
 

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The Mickleover looks to only have 5 buses allocated once again today instead of 6. Really should focus on operating what they have before increasing frequencies/adding new routes, especially where funding is being used - as it ends up being less effective.
 

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The Mickleover looks to only have 5 buses allocated once again today instead of 6. Really should focus on operating what they have before increasing frequencies/adding new routes, especially where funding is being used - as it ends up being less effective.
4 buses on the swift too, including 3 spares.
 

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The Mickleover looks to only have 5 buses allocated once again today instead of 6. Really should focus on operating what they have before increasing frequencies/adding new routes, especially where funding is being used - as it ends up being less effective.
The service had a bus which had a crash... so yeah they aren't gonna prioritise a every 10 minute frequency when services like swift are struggling. Mickleover is only being increased due to passenger numbers being high enough for it to be. It'll help passengers get to where they need faster as well as spread the passenger numbers between more busses along the service. If the demand is there why shouldn't they increase frequency? Vehicles will only be off for a little bit of time until whatevers needed to be fixed is fixed. Plus the merc engined versas are off so that won't help
 

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The Mickleover looks to only have 5 buses allocated once again today instead of 6. Really should focus on operating what they have before increasing frequencies/adding new routes, especially where funding is being used - as it ends up being less effective.

We are waiting for 314 to return from being repaired and we were expecting back sooner than this but it will return soon enough and as said the Mickleover is not a priority for a spare and can cope with 5 buses.

You gotta remember the priority for spares is V3 and comet due to the the only hourly frequency then other like swift and villager then you get down to the like every 15 and 10 min frequency routes.
 

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We are waiting for 314 to return from being repaired and we were expecting back sooner than this but it will return soon enough and as said the Mickleover is not a priority for a spare and can cope with 5 buses.

You gotta remember the priority for spares is V3 and comet due to the the only hourly frequency then other like swift and villager then you get down to the like every 15 and 10 min frequency routes.
I fully agree that infrequent services should take priority.

My point is that when you increase the frequency on mickleover, that will result in having more buses to maintain - when it is evident that they are not capable of maintaining the current fleet - if they were there wouldn't be several services dropped "consistently".

And that is why they shouldn't increase the frequency of the mickleover. It will result in the continuation of missing out services on the 6.2, red arrow, allestree all of which have suffered poor levels of service for many many months. And yes there will always be a "reason", but to be honest, they are not very good ones. You have to expect that buses will have bumps, breakdowns etc and have a suitable plan in place and resources available for when this occurs. That is part and parcel of running a bus company, let alone one that purports to be really good.
 

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I fully agree that infrequent services should take priority.

My point is that when you increase the frequency on mickleover, that will result in having more buses to maintain - when it is evident that they are not capable of maintaining the current fleet - if they were there wouldn't be several services dropped "consistently".

And that is why they shouldn't increase the frequency of the mickleover. It will result in the continuation of missing out services on the 6.2, red arrow, allestree all of which have suffered poor levels of service for many many months. And yes there will always be a "reason", but to be honest, they are not very good ones. You have to expect that buses will have bumps, breakdowns etc and have a suitable plan in place and resources available for when this occurs. That is part and parcel of running a bus company, let alone one that purports to be really good.
All very true.
They really don't need to continue with the X38 silliness either. Just get back to a sensible frequency on the route.
 

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Just seen on the a38 745 being towed
Broke down on the nightbus but seems to be out again.

You gotta remember the priority for spares is V3 and comet due to the the only hourly frequency then other like swift and villager then you get down to the like every 15 and 10 min frequency routes.
Looks like the spare but priority went out the window today with 328 being taken off the swift to go on the mickleover's with no replacement.
 
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Broke down on the nightbus but seems to be out again.


Looks like the spare but priority went out the window today with 328 being taken off the swift to go on the mickleover's with no replacement.
Ideal time for 105 and 106 to re-enter service. I see Versa 847 had a little diversion on the Swift tonight. Probably a road closure between Uttoxeter and Ashbourne.
 

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Just saw a Mickleover coming onto pentagon island, the junction it was pulling off from would make me suspect one from Langley mill
 
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Coach 74 and Mickleover branded 105 and 106 are back at Meadow Road.

8 is pretty impressive recently
If it stays like this, and 74 is up and running quickly, we should have a full coach only schedule soon. Now that I have said this, one of the coaches are going to brake down.

I'm assuming 105/106 will just be used as spares for the time being?
 

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If it stays like this, and 74 is up and running quickly, we should have a full coach only schedule soon. Now that I have said this, one of the coaches are going to brake down.

I'm assuming 105/106 will just be used as spares for the time being?
Interesting they have "every 10 minutes" branding. They could enter service, one to cover 314 and the other as a dedicated spare, releasing spares to cover other routes in need
 

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