I wonder if Errol Flynn had similar problems in his heyday? Did Robert Maxwell regard "common decency" as an attribute?
Just nominated those as being "larger than life" characters, just like Johnson.....
Just nominated those as being "larger than life" characters, just like Johnson.....
Has this matter been in the media since you reported it on this thread?
With the greatest of respect, absolutely nothing you're saying here is relevant in the slightest to a discussion about governance in 2022.
Quite impressive whataboutery though.
The fact that defenders of this government are now unironically going back half a millennium to find someone (a man with six wives, no less) they perceive to be less morally compromised is really beyond parody at this stage.
Not to mention the asteroid that killed them! Johnson isn't responsible for any extinction level events so what are you complaining about?
Whataboutery is a regular occurrence in this thread, though. The moment that the Dear Leader is criticised it's "oooooh, what about Keir Starmer" or "Labour did this". We're expected to come up with evidence to back up every single opinion, yet when the same people pontificate about other party leaders it doesn't seem to matter any more.
It does prove the old adage that history does have an uncanny ability to repeat itself.
Partygate is a trivial matter in the big scheme of things. Bojo hasn't changed, and the Tory MPs/members and the British electorate who chose him to be PM in 2019 knew what his negative attributes were when they made their decision. They will have the opportunity to defenestrate him in due course, should they wish to do so, in summer 2023 (for Tory MPs/members) or at the subsequent general election (if he remains PM until then). In the meantime, those who are hostile to him should shut up, and allow him to get on with the day job.
Let us examine a matter of a 20th century British Prime Minister who was not "whiter than the driven snow" in terms of personal morality. I refer to David Lloyd George.
That being the case, why have the need then for 19th century morality standards in the year of Our Lord 2022?
I would not disagree with restricting strikes in essential services, as long as it’s not damaging to workers. I don’t think you have to be right wing to think this either — disruption from strikes harms the least well paid the worst.
As long as an incumbent Conservative Party Prime Minister abides by the Rules Appertaining, then there is nothing but the internal machinations of his own party can manipulate for a 12-month period after a vote of confidence has been held and the Prime Minister had achieved a majority in that said vote of confidence. This is all I will say on that matter.
Though to be fair to Henry VIII, there was according to an old conundrum that if you ever go to St Ives, you might meet a man with seven wives....
Quite. The problem with western liberal democracies is that people do not respect their leaders enough. Particularly alpha-males such as His Excellency Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson Esq. He was educated at Eton and Oxford, and has a line of ancestry from German royalty, don't you know. Thus he's better than us mere plebs, and we should indeed know our place.
Well noticed about the line from German ancestry, but since a certain Royal family in residence in Britain also has German ancestry, there now seems a precedent for "those at the top". Howsoever, I have four first names, so I am better than him...Quite. The problem with western liberal democracies is that people do not respect their leaders enough. Particularly alpha-males such as His Excellency Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson Esq. He was educated at Eton and Oxford, and has a line of ancestry from German royalty, don't you know. Thus he's better than us mere plebs, and we should indeed know our place.
I think that I offered appropriate respect to all our leaders since Margaret Thatcher; prior to that I was too young and I respected our leader because of who they were and the jobs that they held, which I realised was unwarranted.Quite. The problem with western liberal democracies is that people do not respect their leaders enough.
Boris has a habit of getting lucky and again this week he has got lucky again. First the leadership challenge happened a few weeks before instead of after the election defeats. Second the overturning of abortion rights in the United States has overshadowed these defeats as the media now have something else big to report on.
The number of distractions at convenient times, for Boris, has been very fortuitous, for him, in prolonging his tenure. His luck however, has already run out and he knows it...have a look at an interview on C4 last night and his reactions....he's finished and he knows it but intends to keep the delusion alive by now saying he won't change psychologically....bit difficult to do this really... when your core DNA is a vanity obsessed immoral liar.
Some would say that wasn't luck, but rather a cunning plan.
It already has, his attempts to carry on are harming his party and the country but it won't last.
How long will it be before the stated defeat in the House of Commons occurs? What will be the size of the defeat?
That rather depends on Boris, since he would have to be the one proposing (or backing) a vote on a highly contentious policy.
He might seem stupid to many on this thread, but do you honestly think that he will put forward such a matter that he knows will lead to a defeat in the House of Commons?
He'll try to avoid it, naturally, but may be backed into it - a classic "pushed because he wouldn't jump" scenario.
We've been asking that question for a crazy amount of time now. It has seemed like his luck has run out many times in the last year, and yet here he still is in power, and here we still are on this thread virtually a year after the thread started, with people still thinking the end for Boris is just around the corner. All that has actually happened over the last year is that our politicians have demonstrated time and again how poor our political system must be, for this charade to go on for so long. We have close to zero integrity among the Tory Cabinet, nothing to inspire the population by way of a replacement candidate for Boris, or as a future PM in any other Party, an appalling comedy show in Parliament where most of the objective is to put down the opposition rather than to lead the country, and the best ability that senior MPs have developed is how to get away (even more than usual) with answering completely different questions to those which have been asked.
I suppose there are believers still who had seen Corbyn as Prime Minister with Momentum "pulling the strings in the background" in a situation that everything would be fine, there would have been no Covid outbreak and all Britain enjoying a high standard of living.
