Jonathan1990
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I'm just wondering why they run an East Midlands service from St Pancras to Scarborough on summer Saturdays and the idea for it.
I'm just wondering why they run an East Midlands service from St Pancras to Scarborough on summer Saturdays and the idea for it.
I'm a seasoned railwayman & I never get it especially as it's shortly going up to 2tph.
Surely you have just answered your own question? There are enough passengers that 2thp is viable, so 2tph run in some hours to cater for the extra demand. The fact a through service to York and Scarborough is on offer direct from Sheffield and various East Midlands stations is an extra bonus.
Midland Mainline started doing it because, err, some people wanted to travel to and from Scarborough on summer Saturdays.
The idea was then enshrined as a franchise obligation, AIUI.
Didn't they start the service off with 170s before being upgraded to 222s?
Sam
Didn't they start the service off with 170s before being upgraded to 222s?
Sam
Thanks for that info, yes in the winter it only runs to York.It was a replacement for the former Leicester - Scarborough summer saturday service. Not seen it for a couple of years, but it used to load quite well on some saturdays. Does it still run as far as York in winter ?
Thanks for confirming that.The Scarborough service was certainly running with 170s in 2000 when I started at MML
So what's the York and Leeds EMT service for?
Well Leeds is because the HSTs are going that way anyway to get to/from Neville Hill so they might as well run in service to pick up some revenue. York is presumably a mixture of keeping route knowledge for the Scarborough service (less to need refreshing on) and also a destination in its own right of course.
and a slice of York - London ticket revenue ?
Crew training isn't too big an issue I'd imagine, as top few links (I believe?) at Sheffield will have the York service all year round to keep their route knowledge up to scratch. Maybe a refresher once a year to Scarborough?
Do EMT have drivers, crews based in Sheffield? I thought they were all in Derby / Nottingham?
No drivers based at Sheffield - everything north of there is Derby work. There are TMs (and other traincrew) based there though.Do EMT have drivers, crews based in Sheffield? I thought they were all in Derby / Nottingham?
Do EMT have drivers, crews based in Sheffield? I thought they were all in Derby / Nottingham?
Yes.
Sam
Not for a couple of years though now I think?