Crant90045
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I know that LNER send their remaining 91s to Leeds and i think a daily service to york but they dont send them furthur then york and scotland now?
Why is this?
Why is this?
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Why dont LNER class 91s go north of york anymore?
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TT-ONR-NRN
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Primarily so that Newcastle and Edinburgh crews don’t have to sign them, and so they don’t have to worry about Hitachi refusing 225s at Craigentinny and Heaton. There’s also only a small fleet left and since they’re maintained in Leeds it makes sense to concentrate the few units they have on routes that go there.
Crant90045
Member
Thank you very much
Rhinojerry
Member
Do you happen to know when they will be withdrawn please.Hoping to go and ride behind a few.Thanks.
trainswitheddy
Member
Replacements due in 2027, imagine they'll be withdrawn sometime around then. 225group have the diagrams if you're interested
Rhinojerry
Member
Thank you for that,plenty of time then,.CheersReplacements due in 2027, imagine they'll be withdrawn sometime around then. 225group have the diagrams if you're interested
Crant90045
Member
The 91s are all meant to be either scrapped or preserved, im pretty sure 2 are already preserved and 2 (91117 and 91120) have been sold to europheonix a while ago. from all we know know they are going to be replaced with tri-mode trains under TOPS, 897s very simmilar to 397s just tri mode.
Hitachi would have nothing to do with Heaton access, that’s Northern.
And as the 225s are maintained by Northern, Heaton would be a sensible place.
In fact for the abandoned 2024 timetable 225s were booked to return to Newcastle on one or two of the new London to Newcastle services. Wether they would have stabled at Heaton or wether the diagrams would have had them returning to Neville Hill I do not know.
Halish Railway
Established Member
9 carriage Azumas also have a higher seating capacity than the IC225s, especially in standard class, so whilst LNER are restricted on the number of trains they can run until the timetable change in December they might as well run the most capacious train on their busiest route.
trainswitheddy
Member
Why was this scrapped again? Sorry if already discussed
No one could agree on timetables
DanNCL
Established Member
Heaton is a Northern depot, if it wasn't for the crewing issues it would be the logical backup for Neville Hill.
The diagrams I saw were daytime return trips from Kings Cross so would have returned to Neville Hill each night. The timetable that's being progressed for this December isn't too dissimilar although whether 91s to Newcastle still features in that I'm not sure.
Last diagrams I saw had 5/10 Azumas in place of 91s on the Newcastle extras. But that was 9 months ago.
Class 466
Established Member
wasn't scrapped, just postponed to December 25
I never said scrapped!
trainswitheddy
Member
Set swaps aren't unheard of, were you on it? Always a nice upgrade though when it does happen
hexagon789
Veteran Member
Thought that had been changed to a 10-car Azuma?
Peregrine 4903
Established Member
Nope.
hexagon789
Veteran Member
I guess we'll see come December
Top Man! I’ll have to get out for pics when it’s starts
Set swaps aren't unheard of, were you on it? Always a nice upgrade though when it does happen
Unfortunately not, I saw it as it came into Doncaster myself, was a pleasant surprise. I was waiting for one to Sheffield