York station south car park exit closed due to partial wall collapse

[yorkie]

Wall collapses at York Railway Station - masonry scattered over exit

A WALL at York Railway Station has partially collapsed, scattering masonry over a cycle and pedestrian exit.

www.yorkpress.co.uk

A WALL at York Railway Station has partially collapsed, scattering masonry over a cycle and pedestrian exit.

Station operator LNER tweeted this evening that the wall at the pedestrian and cycle exit of the station's long stay car park had partially collapsed.
"This area will be closed off until the damage has been repaired," it said, urging people to bear this in mind if this was their usual way out of the station.

This explains why @D6700 and I were unable to exit this way this evening; we didn't actually get near it as we saw someone going the other way who said it was closed.

It was fine when I used that route just a few hours earlier. I am glad I am aware this evening as I can allow extra time to get my train tomorrow!

This entrance is really handy for access to the south/west of the station as it avoids the pointless bridge and a lengthy and often congested detour.

 

[Bald Rick]

Isn’t this all about to be knocked down / remodelled? Or am I thinking of the wrong bit.

 

[yorkie]

Isn’t this all about to be knocked down / remodelled? Or am I thinking of the wrong bit.

The pointless bridge is being removed and various other works are taking place in the area, but I am not sure if it includes this particular wall being demolished.

Separately to this, is the York Central (''teardrop'') development on the other side of the line.

 

[alistairlees]

The pointless bridge is being removed and various other works are taking place in the area, but I am not sure if it includes this particular wall being demolished.

Separately to this, is the York Central (''teardrop'') development on the other side of the line.

Sorry, I am confused. Where exactly is this wall (and the 'pointless bridge')?

 

[yorkie]

See attached:



The wall in question is denoted by a green box, and the pointless bridge is in a red box.

The masterplan ( https://www.york.gov.uk/downloads/download/871/york-station-front-masterplan ) on page 19 marks the area as a 'future development plot' and page 36 expands on this:

Construction of the multi-storey car park would release
potential development plots which could be suitable for a
variety of commercial, social and/or residential uses. These
plots, and the multi-storey car park would be accessed
from the one-way loop road provided as part of the
highway scheme.
Should such development proposals come forward, there
would be an opportunity to create a pedestrian and cycle
connection from The Crescent through to the station
and to reinforce the existing connection from Lowther
Terrace.

It's not clear to me what this means, but it sounds like there is a possibility this entrance will be rebuilt.

 

[D6700]

This entrance is really handy for access to the south/west of the station as it avoids the pointless bridge and a lengthy and often congested detour.

And is far safer than the alternative route - unless the wall was to collapse whilst passing!

I wouldn't call it a "pointless bridge", though - it's a redundant bridge that did have a purpose for many years.

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/y/york_1841/index.shtml

"The old station remained in use as carriage sidings and in the period 1956 to 1966 it was used by car sleeper services (later titled Motorail). After July 1966 all tracks were cut back to a point outside the city walls."

 

[ashkeba]

If it's just fallen across the entrance and there's no more to fall , they'd reopen the entrance in hours if motorists used it.

 

[yorkie]

And is far safer than the alternative route - unless the wall was to collapse whilst passing!

I wouldn't call it a "pointless bridge", though - it's a redundant bridge that did have a purpose for many years.

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/y/york_1841/index.shtml

"The old station remained in use as carriage sidings and in the period 1956 to 1966 it was used by car sleeper services (later titled Motorail). After July 1966 all tracks were cut back to a point outside the city walls."

True, it wasn't pointless when it was built!

 

[alistairlees]

See attached:

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The wall in question is denoted by a green box, and the pointless bridge is in a red box.

The masterplan ( https://www.york.gov.uk/downloads/download/871/york-station-front-masterplan ) on page 19 marks the area as a 'future development plot' and page 36 expands on this:

It's not clear to me what this means, but it sounds like there is a possibility this entrance will be rebuilt.

Thanks Yorkie.

And is far safer than the alternative route - unless the wall was to collapse whilst passing!

I wouldn't call it a "pointless bridge", though - it's a redundant bridge that did have a purpose for many years.

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/y/york_1841/index.shtml

"The old station remained in use as carriage sidings and in the period 1956 to 1966 it was used by car sleeper services (later titled Motorail). After July 1966 all tracks were cut back to a point outside the city walls."

I too have never thought of the bridge as pointless, though I understand what Yorkie means.

 

[yorkie]

Yes I meant it's pointless now; I'm certainly not suggesting it shouldn't have been built!

 

[D6700]

Yes I meant it's pointless now; I'm certainly not suggesting it shouldn't have been built!

Which is why it's going shortly

 

[tomuk]

If it's just fallen across the entrance and there's no more to fall , they'd reopen the entrance in hours if motorists used it.

The wall is the side wall of the NCP Car Park Parking Garage. There is more wall and a roof it should be supporting. It looks like an old timber lintel above a bricked up doorway has rotted away an collapsed. The other corner of the same building don't look great there appears to be a tree growing out of the gutter\roof\wall.

 

[Bald Rick]

Thanks for that map @yorkie. I lived there for years and never knew about that entrance, even though it would have considerably shortened my walk to the station!

 

[yorkie]

Thanks for that map @yorkie. I lived there for years and never knew about that entrance, even though it would have considerably shortened my walk to the station!

It wasn't there at that time; it only opened 11 years ago:

New ramped gateways for cyclists at York Station

NEW ramped gateways will be installed at York railway station to improve access for cyclists.

www.yorkpress.co.uk

Train operator East Coast will install one ramp at Leeman Road, which will link to the pathway next to the riverside cycle route, which connects the city centre with the Clifton area.

A second ramp will be installed from Lowther Terrace into the station’s long stay car park, improving access from Holgate Road.

According to the comments it opened in August 2011

 

[greyman42]

It's not clear to me what this means, but it sounds like there is a possibility this entrance will be rebuilt.

This entrance/exit is not part of the front of station re-build.

 

[yorkie]

This entrance/exit is not part of the front of station re-build.

I know but the document appears to be suggesting something may be changing in this area.

 

[greyman42]

I know but the document appears to be suggesting something may be changing in this area.

OK. I did not realise that.

 

[yorkie]

OK. I did not realise that.

Neither did I until I looked it up.

However I have bad news: despite briefly reopening, it's closed again; a sign said "until further notice". Anyone who usually goes that way should allow extra time.

(@D6700 @class47)

 

[D6700]

Neither did I until I looked it up.

However I have bad news: despite briefly reopening, it's closed again; a sign said "until further notice". Anyone who usually goes that way should allow extra time.

(@D6700 @class47)

Thank you very much for the warning - although it doesn't surprise me, given the size of the structure involved. I just hope they don't take too long to get it sorted, especially with how dangerous going via Blossom Street is when heading away from the station towards Holgate Road.

 

[dazzler]

According to York Mix, the wall has been secured and the South Car Park exit is now open again.

The exit from York station onto Lowther Terrace and Holgate road has now reopened.

It had to be closed after part of a wall shed masonry across the cycle and pedestrian route, which leads off the long stay car park.

The exit and enterance also acts as a safe bypass for people who do not want to go via Blossom street when making trips between the west of the city and the centre of town.

The Victorian building is sealed off from the pathway as work continues to deal with the cause of the collapse which happened a few weeks ago during heavy rain.

 

[D6700]

Thank you for the update - good news.