GWR Class 800

[Harbornite]

Indeed. Must admit they are quite attractive units even in base white. Sort of like a super-156 because of the single-leaf pocket doors

I generally like the look of them, slightly more stylish than a Voyager.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I generally like the look of them, slightly more stylish than a Voyager.

I think the 26m length helps. Voyagers look a bit stubby, almost like a regional DMU with a fancy snout bolted on (see also the old GatEx units, most European regional DMUs with fancy noses, or indeed Javelins, which while they are genuine high speed units do look a bit like 313s with go-faster stripes).

 

[Class315]

Just seen 5X80 800004 pass through New Barnet running about 90L, crawling on the Up Slow behind 2K03 0524 WGC - MOG. Devoid of the Azuma Vinyls do look very resplendent.

 

[swt_passenger]

Southampton to Bishop Auckland I would expect the route to be M3, M25 and M1. M40 / M42 head to and around Birmingham.

You'd be surprised. In my experience the vast majority of road traffic leaving Southampton for the north does use the A34 from Winchester and joins the M40 at Bicester.

 

[smiffy9373]

I'm aware that 004 is currently in North Pole but as travelling past earlier it looked very much like a 395 was in there as well. It was dark in colour and the yellow on the front was the same as a 395. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[Maderz]

This is not my video
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Although nearly impossible to tell by the video, can anyone clarify if this is running on AC?

 

[tellytype]

This is not my video
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Although nearly impossible to tell by the video, can anyone clarify if this is running on AC?

There's a clear pan-arc on the video, assuming they'd lower the pan if on other power (standard procedure as on Eurostar & dual pan units I'd assume?) then its on AC.

 

[Domh245]

There's a clear pan-arc on the video, assuming they'd lower the pan if on other power (standard procedure as on Eurostar & dual pan units I'd assume?) then its on AC.

That looks like the OLE monitoring light illuminating up the masts.

 

[leomartin125]

I'm aware that 004 is currently in North Pole but as travelling past earlier it looked very much like a 395 was in there as well. It was dark in colour and the yellow on the front was the same as a 395. Can anyone confirm this?

There has been no recorded moves of any Class 395's to North Pole, would be a bit of a treck trying to get there too from any Southeastern 395 depot, and plus a 395 has no reason to be there. If anything it could have been a GWR Class 800 in livery, although I doubt this too at this stage. Your guess is as good as mine I'm afraid! May have to take a look myself soon if I get time.

 

[najaB]

That looks like the OLE monitoring light illuminating up the masts.

Would the light be on of the pan was down?

Edit: Looked at it again in full screen and the pan is up. So the question should be - would they have the pan up if they weren't running on AC, given that it's at night?

 

[Philip Phlopp]

This is not my video
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Although nearly impossible to tell by the video, can anyone clarify if this is running on AC?

Yes.

Paths in the system are also now 125mph.

 

[Nippy]

There has been no recorded moves of any Class 395's to North Pole, would be a bit of a treck trying to get there too from any Southeastern 395 depot, and plus a 395 has no reason to be there. If anything it could have been a GWR Class 800 in livery, although I doubt this too at this stage. Your guess is as good as mine I'm afraid! May have to take a look myself soon if I get time.

800004 is being covered in vinyl for an event at Paddington on the 30th

 

[fgwrich]

800004 is being covered in vinyl for an event at Paddington on the 30th

Interesting, thanks. Presumably something to do with GWR more than anything then.

There has been no recorded moves of any Class 395's to North Pole, would be a bit of a treck trying to get there too from any Southeastern 395 depot, and plus a 395 has no reason to be there. If anything it could have been a GWR Class 800 in livery, although I doubt this too at this stage. Your guess is as good as mine I'm afraid! May have to take a look myself soon if I get time.

Not too difficult if the connections are there - They've ran up to Victoria in the past, so off at Wandsworth Road, down and around onto the west London line and into Hitachis North Pole Depot via the Scrubs lane link if it's still useable.

But of course this doesn't matter as its confirmed as 800004.

 

[leomartin125]

800004 is being covered in vinyl for an event at Paddington on the 30th

Do you know what this event is? I'm presuming it's like the 'Azuma' unveiling at Kings X. Wish I could be there, funnily enough I have a GWR Assessment in Swindon that day.

 

[800001]

This is not my video
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Although nearly impossible to tell by the video, can anyone clarify if this is running on AC?

It arrived at Darlington on the night of the 23rd under Diesel power, however it did appear that the pantograph was up with the bright light on. So maybe just monitoring the performance of the pantograph?

 

[Philip Phlopp]

It arrived at Darlington on the night of the 23rd under Diesel power, however it did appear that the pantograph was up with the bright light on. So maybe just monitoring the performance of the pantograph?

It sounds like it's the pantograph part of the electric to diesel transition testing.

 

[jimm]

800004 is being covered in vinyl for an event at Paddington on the 30th

Would this event be anything to do with marking the 175th anniversary of the opening of Box Tunnel on June 20, 1841, and this 'Unadvertised Express' from Bristol Temple Meads to Paddington showing on realtime trains, albeit on a rather less than express schedule east of Didcot and terminating at platform 2? Wonder what might be parked in platform 1...

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V02535/2016/06/30/advanced

 

[leomartin125]

Would this event be anything to do with marking the 175th anniversary of the opening of Box Tunnel on June 20, 1841, and this 'Unadvertised Express' from Bristol Temple Meads to Paddington showing on realtime trains, albeit on a rather less than express schedule east of Didcot and terminating at platform 2? Wonder what might be parked in platform 1...

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V02535/2016/06/30/advanced

Sounds like something interesting, GWR have confirmed to me today in a tweet that something is happening at Paddington on Thursday. Although in response to your "wonder what might be parked in Platform 1" suspicion, this:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C41463/2016/06/30/advanced

Although anything can happen between now and then, waiitng to see an STP schedule in the next coming days for an IEP move from North Pole to Paddington.

 

[Nippy]

Would this event be anything to do with marking the 175th anniversary of the opening of Box Tunnel on June 20, 1841, and this 'Unadvertised Express' from Bristol Temple Meads to Paddington showing on realtime trains, albeit on a rather less than express schedule east of Didcot and terminating at platform 2? Wonder what might be parked in platform 1...

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V02535/2016/06/30/advanced

I don't know. When I left this morning, there was no information at work. I'm not in for a while.
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Sounds like something interesting, GWR have confirmed to me today in a tweet that something is happening at Paddington on Thursday. Although in response to your "wonder what might be parked in Platform 1" suspicion, this:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C41463/2016/06/30/advanced

Although anything can happen between now and then, waiitng to see an STP schedule in the next coming days for an IEP move from North Pole to Paddington.

Don't read too much into platforms at Paddington. These change on an hourly basis!

 

[jayiscupid]

I'm aware that 004 is currently in North Pole but as travelling past earlier it looked very much like a 395 was in there as well. It was dark in colour and the yellow on the front was the same as a 395. Can anyone confirm this?

So does this mean the GWR 800's are getting yellow front noses?

 

[RAGNARØKR]

Didn't the Scrubbs Lane link close when the Eurostar depot was built? To transfer from Clapham Junction to the GW main line, the inter-regional trains were then diverted to run via Acton Wells.

 

[RobShipway]

Didn't the Scrubbs Lane link close when the Eurostar depot was built? To transfer from Clapham Junction to the GW main line, the inter-regional trains were then diverted to run via Acton Wells.

As per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pole_depot, the eastern site is accessed by rail via the western site passing under the West London line and the A219 (Scrubs Lane) at Mitre bridge.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Didn't the Scrubbs Lane link close when the Eurostar depot was built? To transfer from Clapham Junction to the GW main line, the inter-regional trains were then diverted to run via Acton Wells.

The IEP project has reconfigured the North Pole Eurostar depot and there is now a direct connection to the main line at Ladbroke Grove towards Paddington.
As there was, of course, when the sidings were originally built by the GWR.

 

[leomartin125]

So does this mean the GWR 800's are getting yellow front noses?

Yes they are, as many are being shipped from Japan with these fronts anyway, the rest are also being configured to have yellow noses. Although it wouldn't take too much of a repaint to change that...

 

[Domh245]

So does this mean the GWR 800's are getting yellow front noses?

Given the Promotional Material, that shouldn't come as a great surprise

 

[physics34]

the 800s have really gone over my head..... ive lost a bit of touch lol

Can somebody list how many units are being built, which TOCS they are going to and what they are replacing?

CHeers.

 

[Domh245]

the 800s have really gone over my head..... ive lost a bit of touch lol

Can somebody list how many units are being built, which TOCS they are going to and what they are replacing?

CHeers.

Off of Wikipedia and my own understanding

GWR:

• 21 x 9 car bi modes [801*] (originally electric but switched due to wiring delays)
• 36 x 5 car bi modes [800]
• 22 x 5 car bi modes [802] (separate to IEP)
• 7 x 9 car bi modes [802] (separate to IEP)

Replacing: HSTs and 180s (and some Turbos as well IIRC)

VTEC:

• 12 x 5 car electric [801]
• 30 x 9 car electric [801]
• 13 x 9 car bi modes [800]
• 10 x 5 car bi modes [800]

Replacing: HSTs and IC225s

Then also, Hull trains will receive 5x 5 car 802s, and TPE will receive 19x 5 car 802s. There is also speculation that there will be a few more 5 car 802s for GWR to make up the difference by them receiving only 387s and no 365s.


*or maybe 800, not sure know

 

[physics34]

Off of Wikipedia and my own understanding

GWR:

• 21 x 9 car bi modes [801*] (originally electric but switched due to wiring delays)
• 36 x 5 car bi modes [800]
• 22 x 5 car bi modes [802] (separate to IEP)
• 7 x 9 car bi modes [802] (separate to IEP)

Replacing: HSTs and 180s (and some Turbos as well IIRC)

VTEC:

• 12 x 5 car electric [801]
• 13 x 9 car bi modes [800]
• 10 x 5 car bi modes [800]

Replacing: HSTs and IC225s

Then also, Hull trains will receive 5x 5 car 802s, and TPE will receive 19x 5 car 802s. There is also speculation that there will be a few more 5 car 802s for GWR to make up the difference by them receiving only 387s and no 365s.


*or maybe 800, not sure know

thanks very much.

GWR keeping a few HSTs as 5 cars?

 

[Domh245]

GWR keeping a few HSTs as 5 cars?

I think it was 2+4 as indicated by this post, but that isn't really related to IEP introduction as such (planned due to wiring delays), it was just facilitated by it.

 

[IanXC]

VTEC:

• 12 x 5 car electric [801]
• 13 x 9 car bi modes [800]
• 10 x 5 car bi modes [800]

Replacing: HSTs and IC225s

VTEC also have 30x 9 car electric [801] which are replacement for the IC225 sets.