What happens if you go home for a 5 minute drink/toilet break then go back out again? I'm guessing that counts as exercising more than once a day.I think the measures for England will be similar to those for Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales.
- Limiting exercise to once per day is difficult to enforce - if you are out jogging in the evening, how do the police know whether you went out in the morning as well
- Banning alcohol completely will seriously **** people off, and lead to a lot of black market transactions, as happened during the Second World War.
What term would you prefer we use? It's a purely descriptive term - these are Lockdown Activists, and Locktivist is a portmanteau of those two words. Same with Maskivist.There is some irony of you doing the same though ("locktivist" and some of other similar terms thrown around in these threads).
Rumour (from Robert Peston's Twitter) of school's being closed. Bloody brilliant, when kids have had a day to mix. So there's actually *no point* closing now...
Well apart from the fact that by and large, people who support the restrictions are haradly "lockdown activists" because we would all rather we didn't have the need for all of this. Maybe lockdown acceptors is a better descriptive term!What term would you prefer we use? It's a purely descriptive term - these are Lockdown Activists, and Locktivist is a portmanteau of those two words. Same with Maskivist.
It's not the same as calling someone a 'Granny Killer' (or 'Murderer' which the most hysterical sometimes resort to).
Well apart from the fact that by and large, people who support the restrictions are haradly "lockdown activists" because we would all rather we didn't have the need for all of this. Maybe lockdown acceptors is a better descriptive term!
Well apart from the fact that by and large, people who support the restrictions are haradly "lockdown activists" because we would all rather we didn't have the need for all of this. Maybe lockdown acceptors is a better descriptive term!
Totally wrecking the kids' futures as well.Rumour (from Robert Peston's Twitter) of school's being closed. Bloody brilliant, when kids have had a day to mix. So there's actually *no point* closing now...
Rumour (from Robert Peston's Twitter) of school's being closed. Bloody brilliant, when kids have had a day to mix. So there's actually *no point* closing now...
Legally, the health minister may introduce changes to restrictions, including a third national lockdown, without a prior parliamentary vote. The restrictions would lapse if not endorsed by both houses of parliament within 4 weeks.I don't think technically it does no. I think the "emergency" legislation allows changes to the laws without a parliamentary vote. However he has since committed to holding a vote on any changes where possible, but it isn't required and the exact criteria of when a vote will or will not take place has not been set out as far as I know.
Edit: I don't think there was a vote before T4 was introduced, in fact
Curfew would seem pretty pointless this time of the year but some EU countries have used it and in some French departments they've just amended from 8PM to 6PM so they must see it as beneficial.
A political commitment was made last year not to do so without approval in the House of Commons, however any failure to follow that commitment is a matter between the Commons and the Government, and is not (for example) justiciable.
The saving grace if school closures are strictly for a defined, finite period. Not the never-ending situation in Lockdown 1.
The saving grace if school closures are strictly for a defined, finite period. Not the never-ending situation in Lockdown 1.
The Coach and Horses in Ickenham seems to be operating such a takeaway ( Certainly was on Christmas Day)In the summer it was quite common to see people getting beer take-a-way and then drinking it nearby (often right outside), but I can’t quite imagine there is as much demand at the moment given how cold it is.
The opposition want this and probably its only because Starmer winds him up over what to do it actually gets delayed by a few days anyhow. The opposition was coming from Steve Bakers CRG lot but by and large they've fallen by the wayside and only Desmond Swayne has the balls to speak up.If only we had an opposition who would tackle this sort of thing! The Christmas announcement just after parliament had stopped sitting is another example of the authoritarian strategy - that very much looked to be deliberate.
28 days later... wasn’t that a movie about a post-virus Britain, directed by Danny Boyle?Anything that involves making new Regulations under the 1984 Act requires a Parliamentary vote within 28 days.
Of course in a situation as fast-changing as this, that gives the PM the power to effectively side-line Parliament. He can make superseding Regulations before the existing ones have been voted on. Or he can simply make an identical SI anew, even if it has been voted down in a different guise.
In any case, for the House not to rubber-stamp whatever is put before them would be to break with decades of precedent.
It would also be arithmetically improbable given the pro-restrictions stance of most of the two major parties' MPs. Such a possibility can almost certainly be ruled out.
The opposition want this and probably its only because Starmer winds him up over what to do it actually gets delayed by a few days anyhow. The opposition was coming from Steve Bakers CRG lot but by and large they've fallen by the wayside and only Desmond Swayne has the balls to speak up.
Curfew wouldn't bother me...I don't get home from work until after 10pm most days...
I was on a bus just now with my other half and I jokingly said the next restriction will be ‘no talking!’.Possibilities include:
For the avoidance of doubt I am not advocating any of these nor even suggesting they would work, but there is still a considerable amount of available interventions.
- Closure of schools
- working from home required by law unless impossible/on a list of approved occupations
- increased controls on international arrivals
- extension of mask requirements (offices, outdoors, etc.)
- road checkpoints
- multiple adults not allowed to shop together
- overnight curfews
- closing places of worship
- 3 mile limit of travel from your home
- increase to penalties for breaches
- Close zoos
- no going out for recreation, only exercise
- walk-up takeaway food and drink banned, only drive thru or delivery
- non-essential goods by click & collect banned, only delivery
- alcohol and/or tobacco banned or restricted
- exercise limited to once per day
- no travel to other places for exercise; exercise must start and finish at your home
- non-emergency work in people’s homes banned, e.g. no home improvement, Sky installation etc.
- support groups banned
- children’s organised sports banned
- support bubbles abolished or limited
Trying to eliminate this virus is as futile as attempting to nail a jelly to a wall... a virus with a survival rate of at least 99.7%, and which has already demonstrates that it can happily bypass any restrictions and carry on spreading.
And equally those screaming against lockdowns all the time on social media are very much activists, by this reckoning.The most vocal ones very much are activists, screaming for lockdowns all the time on social media.
And equally those screaming against lockdowns all the time on social media are very much activists, by this reckoning.
It is this name-calling, branding and the putting down of people with differing opinions (instead of actually offering up solid counter arguments using facts) that has lead us to situations like Trump, Brexit and the worst Government in the history of UK politics.
If you attack people, they will fight back in the only ways they think they can - usually whilst grouping together to become a majority. If both sides actually try to reason, then maybe a middle ground can be found that isn't quite so bad as either end of the scales.
You think?If only we had an opposition who would tackle this sort of thing! The Christmas announcement just after parliament had stopped sitting is another example of the authoritarian strategy - that very much looked to be deliberate.
You think?
A new variant was discovered to be more transmissible on the Monday, but the situation was deemed so urgent that they waited until the Saturday to introduce ‘emergency’ changes, when Parliament was no longer sitting
The government claimed they only received the advice which made them make the changes on the Friday. Normally I’d take that with a pinch of salt, but Scotland made their change at the same time and normally Sturgeon takes every opportunity to show she’s reacting faster than Boris.You think?
A new variant was discovered to be more transmissible on the Monday, but the situation was deemed so urgent that they waited until the Saturday to introduce ‘emergency’ changes, when Parliament was no longer sitting
If the opposition was in power I suspect that we would not be allowed out of the house without a formal permit and mask compulsory at all times, as is the case in some EU member states.If only we had an opposition who would tackle this sort of thing! The Christmas announcement just after parliament had stopped sitting is another example of the authoritarian strategy - that very much looked to be deliberate.
Not being locked down is the natural state of affairs - someone who is advoating that cannot be an activist.
Plenty of counter-arguments using facts have been offered - it simply doesn't work and just receives simplistic answers like "but people are dying" and "so you think we should just let old people die?". No matter how much it is pointed out that the statistics, worldwide, show little or no benefit from restrictions they won't take any notice - in their view, something must be done, and restrictions are something, so they must be done.
Sounds goodWith half an hour to go until the big announcement, shall we have a game of Boris Briefing Bingo?
There are 24 words and phrases on this card, so perhaps everyone could pick 6, and we can see who wins.
FWIW I have no issues with anybody on either side being called an activist for strongly expressing a view. It's when people get called murderers, or are told they are idiots by people who quite clearly have no basis for making that claimThat makes as much sense as saying that anyone advocating for and end to a war is not activitist, because not being at war is the "natural state of affairs".
The "natural state of affairs"(as conveniently defined by you to be the exactly thing you are advoacting) is a not what matters, it is the current state of affairs.