Surely we should be able to vaccinate 7 days a week?
You could say the same about the railway service - things in all walks of life are slower on Sunday.
Surely we should be able to vaccinate 7 days a week?
I believe with the Pfizer vaccine, its more specific than that. I suspect that no, it can't be refrozen, but I believe (read it here I think) that it has an agent added and once this is done, it has a lifespan for use measured in hoursThe hospital where I work were literally begging workers to just walk in for a vaccine this morning as they apparently had a load going spare that would otherwise expire by a certain time in the morning
I believe they're using the Pfizer vaccine, is it a case of once they're taken out of the freezer they can't go back in? Seems a bit of a shame to just go to waste like that
Surely we should be able to vaccinate 7 days a week?
I believe they're using the Pfizer vaccine, is it a case of once they're taken out of the freezer they can't go back in? Seems a bit of a shame to just go to waste like that
(Each vial is 5 doses, each pack is 195 vials)6.4 Special precautions for storage
Store in a freezer at -80 °C to -60 °C.
Store in the thermal container at -90 ºC to -60 ºC.
Store in the original package in order to protect from light.
Once removed from the freezer, the undiluted vaccine can be stored for up to 5 days at 2 °C to 8 °C, and up to 2 hours at temperatures up to 25 °C, prior to use. During storage, minimise exposure to room light, and avoid exposure to direct sunlight and ultraviolet light. Thawed vials can be handled in room light conditions.
After dilution, store the vaccine at 2 °C to 25 °C and use as soon as practically possible and within 6 hours. The vaccine does not contain a preservative. Discard any unused vaccine.
Once diluted, the vials should be marked with the dilution time and discarded within 6 hours of dilution.
Once thawed, the vaccine cannot be re-frozen.
well at two million per week we would only need two weeks for everyone done so far. Six weeks in.There is talk of moving to the next phase of recipients in the spring, but surely that is when the first phase of recipients will need to have their second dose? Perhaps further ramping up will cover this, but is that possible?
well at two million per week we would only need two weeks for everyone done so far. Six weeks in.
Also , the J&J vaccine will hopefully become availabile in a couple of weeks enabling another step change in vaccination rate
My 85 year old mother has been in hospital for the last 3 weeks and despite us continually asking them she still has not received her vaccination. It is worrying enough, with the current Covid situation in hospitals her having to be there following a stroke, but if they had given her the vaccine when she was first admitted she would have certain amount of immunity by now. Very annoying when all of her friends in the village of similar age have now had theirs and she hasn’t.The hospital where I work were literally begging workers to just walk in for a vaccine this morning as they apparently had a load going spare that would otherwise expire by a certain time in the morning
I believe they're using the Pfizer vaccine, is it a case of once they're taken out of the freezer they can't go back in? Seems a bit of a shame to just go to waste like that
My 85 year old mother has been in hospital for the last 3 weeks and despite us continually asking them she still has not received her vaccination. It is worrying enough, with the current Covid situation in hospitals her having to be there following a stroke, but if they had given her the vaccine when she was first admitted she would have certain amount of immunity by now. Very annoying when all of her friends in the village of similar age have now had theirs and she hasn’t.
About one in 10 people across the UK tested positive for Covid-19 antibodies in December, roughly double the October figure, data has shown.
Estimates from the Office for National Statistics suggest between 8% of people in Northern Ireland and 12% of people in England showed signs of recent Covid infection.
In October, antibody positivity ranged from 2% to 7% around the UK.
And 6,586 Covid deaths were registered in the UK in the week to 8 January.
That brings the total registered so far close to 96,000.
Yorkshire and the Humber led the chart with 17% of people having positive antibodies.
Other studies have shown higher numbers with that, too, as antibodies fade with time, but T/B cell immunity persists.We can add an average immunity from antibody presence of 10% in December to the immunity the vaccines should be providing:
Covid: Positive antibody tests doubled since autumn
Some 10% of the UK population is showing signs of recent infection, a doubling since October, says ONS.www.bbc.co.uk
As long as any strains with S-484 mutations stay out of the UK!We can add an average immunity from antibody presence of 10% in December to the immunity the vaccines should be providing:
Covid: Positive antibody tests doubled since autumn
Some 10% of the UK population is showing signs of recent infection, a doubling since October, says ONS.www.bbc.co.uk
Or perhaps b-cell mutation as a response of both direct infection or vaccine might be able to cope with such variants?As long as any strains with S-484 mutations stay out of the UK!
Is there any clear evidence of the being unaffected by the immune responses?As long as any strains with S-484 mutations stay out of the UK!
We can add an average immunity from antibody presence of 10% in December to the immunity the vaccines should be providing:
Covid: Positive antibody tests doubled since autumn
Some 10% of the UK population is showing signs of recent infection, a doubling since October, says ONS.www.bbc.co.uk
Would it have been possible to put out this information on local radio/TV? I am sure there would of been plenty of takers. Out of interest, where was this?The hospital where I work were literally begging workers to just walk in for a vaccine this morning as they apparently had a load going spare that would otherwise expire by a certain time in the morning
I believe they're using the Pfizer vaccine, is it a case of once they're taken out of the freezer they can't go back in? Seems a bit of a shame to just go to waste like that
Many sectors operate 24/7. If you are rostered on, on a Sunday or bank holiday then you have to work it and you don't get to do it any slower.You could say the same about the railway service - things in all walks of life are slower on Sunday.
I meant more with fewer trains and also engineering works ongoing so trains are diverted / slower / more changes.Would it have been possible to put out this information on local radio/TV? I am sure there would of been plenty of takers. Out of interest, where was this?
Many sectors operate 24/7. If you are rostered on, on a Sunday or bank holiday then you have to work it and you don't get to do it any slower.
Regarding the rail industry, i see your point.I meant more with fewer trains and also engineering works ongoing so trains are diverted / slower / more changes.
Regarding the rail industry, i see your point.
The latest research from SA is that certain parts of the immune response (measured in patients who get Covid for a second time) is far slower in those who have the 484K mutation strain than for the non 484K strains.Is there any clear evidence of the being unaffected by the immune responses?
I have read marginally different figures but essentially that Israel has found the Pfizer vaccination less effective than first thought. Agree with the emboldened - it would be better that the most vulnerable were given the full shot than those at much lower risk given the first. It was always likely that there will be variances, some might prove more effective some less, simply because of the trial process. As has been posted above, we are well set and the odd hiccup shouldn't be much of a set back. We do, though, need to ensure that we monitor patients after the second dose of the vaccine to ensure that they are reasonably immune.[/b][/b]I've noticed a few comments in recent news shows that Israel is finding that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is less effective at preventing infection than Pfizer's suggestion of about 50%. I think the suggestion I heard was it may be a third less effective.
This is worrying as it would seem to suggest a slower reduction in hospital admissions and deaths than previously assumed.
If further data suggests the same it could mean the 12 week gap between doses may prove a bad decision and need to be reviewed.
Hope it's proved not to be the case as it's only the first batch of data from Israel. Israel has I believe signed up to lots of research and data sharing with Pfizer to get extra doses early so it will be interesting to keep an eye on what happens there.
The problem with this is that Israel has not deigned to release its figures, and the Pfizer 52% figure is nonsensical anyway.I've noticed a few comments in recent news shows that Israel is finding that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is less effective at preventing infection than Pfizer's suggestion of about 50%. I think the suggestion I heard was it may be a third less effective.