Progress of delivery of cascaded/refurbished/PRM modified stock to TFW/Wales and Borders

[Rhydgaled]

The maximum speed for the 231 routes is 95 if they're allowed to run at HST speeds - otherwise 90. Again, the improved acceleration over the units they're replacing should provide a decent upgrade without needing any changes to top speed.

Aren't they intended to work the Swanline services? If so, they'll be going through Pyle which is HST 100 I believe but given that they will be stopping at Pyle if going through there that is probably accademic.

 

[Bob Price]

Didn't think so. Just Maesteg, Ebbw Vale and Cheltenham.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Aren't they intended to work the Swanline services? If so, they'll be going through Pyle which is HST 100 I believe but given that they will be stopping at Pyle if going through there that is probably accademic.

That should be in the hands of 197 trains.

 

[JakeMurphy]

What is the next 150 to be refurbished?

227

 

[The_Train]

175114 outside at Widnes this morning.

Mark

In it's new colours?

227

Has this gone in or due to at some point?

 

[Armchair Bob]

In it's new colours?

Has this gone in or due to at some point?

175114 is ready to be collected with 112 replacing it. 150227 is refurb in progress.

 

[Spirit555]

In it's new colours?

Has this gone in or due to at some point?

In TFW colours

 

[3973EXL]

VSTP 02/12

Realtime Trains - 5W12 1230 Chester D.M.U.D. to Widnes Transport Tech
Realtime Trains - 5W14 1437 Widnes Transport Tech to Chester D.M.U.D.

Both Ran.

 

[berneyarms]

I wonder what work Widnes may get to replace the Class 175 refurb programme once it is completed this month?

 

[craigybagel]

I wonder what work Widnes may get to replace the Class 175 refurb programme once it is completed this month?

IIRC Widnes are lined up for the Class 458 upgrades for SWR?

 

[berneyarms]

Thanks!

 

[darylyates17]

175114 is ready to be collected with 112 replacing it. 150227 is refurb in progress.

All renaming 158s & 175s still to be fully refurbed should all be done by new year leaving only the 150s in ATW colors.

I wonder what work Widnes may get to replace the Class 175 refurb programme once it is completed this month?

Pendolino interior refurbishments perhaps?

 

[berneyarms]

The 175 programme should complete at the beginning of January, and the 158 programme by early March, allowing for Christmas time off.

 

[Bob Price]

158835 came from Doncaster today to Shrewsbury. I take it this was the latest refurb.

 

[Caaardiff]

158835 came from Doncaster today to Shrewsbury. I take it this was the latest refurb.

Refurbs are done at Crewe. Doncaster is for heavy maintenance.

 

[The_Train]

In TFW colours

Thank you

 

[Stephen Lee]

Guys, I wondered if the extra Class 153s has arrived and also can i know which TOC does those dogboxes come from?

 

[sd0733]

Guys, I wondered if the extra Class 153s has arrived and also can i know which TOC does those dogboxes come from?

Which extra 153s? Theres none arrived for ages and no more planned either past the fleet theyve had for the past 12 months or so

 

[Jez]

Which extra 153s? Theres none arrived for ages and no more planned either past the fleet theyve had for the past 12 months or so

Are there not more 153s coming which will stay and run the Heart of Wales/Crewe local services for the rest of the franchise, or at least for a lot longer than the rest of the 153s/150s will be around?

Originally 170s were being retained for HOW/Crewe local and some West Wales services but now apparently TFW are getting extra 153s which will stay to do the HOW line.

 

[sd0733]

Are there not more 153s coming which will stay and run the Heart of Wales/Crewe local services for the rest of the franchise, or at least for a lot longer than the rest of the 153s/150s will be around?

Originally 170s were being retained for HOW/Crewe local and some West Wales services but now apparently TFW are getting extra 153s which will stay to do the HOW line.

No, no extras just part of the fleet that's already there have been purchased from the leasing company and be kept.

 

[PHILIPE]

Yes, I know - have seen 175s on Maesteg plenty of times, but not a 170 going to North Wales, or anywhere other than Maesteg, Ebbw Vale or Gloucester, for that matter.

The 170 would have not gone to North Wales but would have changed diagrams for one reason or another, When this occurs the unit invariably remains on it's original in the system and catch up with events later.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

The 170 would have not gone to North Wales but would have changed diagrams for one reason or another, When this occurs the unit invariably remains on it's original in the system andf catch up with events later.

Yes I was stupid to think it would! Of course it changed in the system later.

 

[JakeMurphy]

150227 back out and about

 

[tomm]

What 150 is next in for refurb.

 

[Philip]

Under the new timetable, does anyone know which TfW services out of Manchester (either towards Chester or South Wales) are booked for a 2 coach unit Mon-Fri?

Some of the Manchester to South Wales services inparticular seem very hit and miss as to whether a 2 or 3 coach unit turns up.

 

[berneyarms]

Can any of our informed members confirm if another Class 150 is in for refurb replacing 150 227?

 

[Armchair Bob]

Can any of our informed members confirm if another Class 150 is in for refurb replacing 150 227?

I've just been told that one half of 150284 is visible at Pullman rail, so that must be it.

 

[Caaardiff]

158827 is back from refresh at Crewe. It doesn't look like the next 158 will be going in until after the new year.

 

[darylyates17]

158827 is back from refresh at Crewe. It doesn't look like the next 158 will be going in until after the new year.

158825 & 158828 the remaining 2 im guessing.

 

[berneyarms]

158825 & 158828 the remaining 2 im guessing.

Correct

I wonder will 153 968 and 153 972 come out of the works in Landore before year end?

Their completion will leave just 153 918 and 153 982 to get PRM Lite mods.