SWR Metro fleet permanent withdrawals

[Ant1966]

8504 is still on 12 road sticking out.
8522 is on the stops on 22 road. Hope the picture helps

Great picture Warren! Any idea if 5740 has moved, or is is still invisible behind another unit?

 

[Pep and co]

8504 is still on 12 road sticking out.
8522 is on the stops on 22 road. Hope the picture helps

Is the best vantage point of 12 road at Wimbledon from passing through on the train or is there a better spot off Wellington Road or Gresham Way?

 

[WarrenTManager]

Great picture Warren! Any idea if 5740 has moved, or is is still invisible behind another unit?

5740 is on 6 road New Sidings which is right outside the maintenance shed under the Wimbledon Traincare Depot sign

Is the best vantage point of 12 road at Wimbledon from passing through on the train or is there a better spot off Wellington Road or Gresham Way?

If you are there looking for 8522 try Gresham. I’ve never walked up there tbh.

You can see it when passing briefly providing nothing is on the Earlsfield exit or shunting out of the shed 7-11 roads on the London end.

 

[Juniper Driver]

5740 does not look in a good way.Noted outside Wimbledon shed with portable tail light both ends yesterday and today.

Noted still in same place on Saturday 12/02/2022 12PM.Looks like it hasn't moved.(Page 19/Post #569)

 

[Ant1966]

Noted still in same place on Saturday 12/02/2022 12PM.Looks like it hasn't moved.(Page 19/Post #569)

Thanks Warren & JD.

 

[3973EXL]

STP 14/02 1131 Wimbledon - Long Marston
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03430/2022-02-14/detailed

STP 16/02 1131 Wimbledon - Long Marston Caped
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03430/2022-02-16/detailed

STP 18/02 1131 Wimbledon - Long Marston
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03430/2022-02-18/detailed

37884 0H72 dep Derby RTC 1435 for Wembley
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R53196/2022-02-13/detailed
For LD Wembley - Wimbledon 14/02
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R03224/2022-02-14/detailed

 

[brad465]

37884 0H72 dep Derby RTC 1435 for Wembley
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R53196/2022-02-13/detailed
For LD Wembley - Wimbledon 14/02
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R03224/2022-02-14/detailed

Does 37884 do any workings other than acting as the Grim Reaper for expired rolling stock?

 

[warwickshire]

Does 37884 do any workings other than acting as the Grim Reaper for expired rolling stock?

Yes last Thursday 10th February and every now and then taking 730 units from oxley to old dalby.
But on saying that ones with faults on in the main.

 

[Bigfoot]

Noted still in same place on Saturday 12/02/2022 12PM.Looks like it hasn't moved.(Page 19/Post #569)

It's a parts donor. Can't see the post but WarrenTManager said this a couple of weeks ago.

 

[WarrenTManager]

Tomorrow’s 456s 6007/11 are in the usual spot waiting for their 37. That leaves 6001/5/17. As far as I know that’s it for the departures of 456s by rail. The latter three units, certainly 6001/5 aren’t rollers. 6017 also has wheelset issues.

 

[73128]

and both 456007/11 were seen a few minutes late at Ken O this morning with 37884 in charge.

 

[Roger B]

and both 456007/11 were seen a few minutes late at Ken O this morning with 37884 in charge.

And seen at Ealing Broadway +13.

 

[Juniper Driver]

It's a parts donor. Can't see the post but WarrenTManager said this a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks.

Thanks Warren & JD.

Mainly Warren he's the top guy on here.
Just noticed his post about this with the picture.

 

[warwickshire]

37884 with 456007 456011 through charlbury 3 early.
Off what could well be the last 456 drag to long marston.
Wonder what is the next in line 458004?
Maybe.?

 

[ScotRail158725]

37884 with 456007 456011 through charlbury 3 early.
Off what could well be the last 456 drag to long marston.
Wonder what is the next in line 458004?
Maybe.?

is that all the 456s in long marston now

 

[3973EXL]

is that all the 456s in long marston now

That leaves 6001/5/17. As far as I know that’s it for the departures of 456s by rail. The latter three units, certainly 6001/5 aren’t rollers. 6017 also has wheelset issues.

 

[73128]

Is anything expected to go to Long Marston today - 455s or 458s??

 

[3973EXL]

Is anything expected to go to Long Marston today - 455s or 458s??

15/02 LD Derby - Wembley Caped 16/02 LD Wembley - Wimbledon Caped

 

[Goldfish62]

Seems to be a severe reduction in the number of 458s being used as of today. Looking at RTT I can only find around a dozen in service, including just one pair on the Reading line with everything else being 450s.

Have the 458s come off particularly badly with storm damage or is this a planned reduction in their use?

 

[TEW]

Seems to be a severe reduction in the number of 458s being used as of today. Looking at RTT I can only find around a dozen in service, including just one pair on the Reading line with everything else being 450s.

Have the 458s come off particularly badly with storm damage or is this a planned reduction in their use?

Certainly on the Reading line that is now booked. A few are booked out as 5 cars on Weybridges now. Should also be a pair on the Kingston loop.

 

[WarrenTManager]

More units declared available am and pm than required. Stock out of position. Three casualties from treestrikes.

 

[Flange Squeal]

Seems to be a severe reduction in the number of 458s being used as of today. Looking at RTT I can only find around a dozen in service, including just one pair on the Reading line with everything else being 450s.

Have the 458s come off particularly badly with storm damage or is this a planned reduction in their use?

A couple still managed a little adventure yesterday (Monday), on the 0750 Waterloo to Guildford stopper via Woking, and 0904 return up via Cobham.

 

[warwickshire]

With the very recent swr timetable change as off Monday 21st February 2022. Does anyone kindly know iff any further reduction in fleet to the 455 or 458 will now occur. Ie off lease or withdrawal 455 wise. Or 458 going for modifications ie widnes or withdrawal etc. Does this include another large batch off units going to long marston again for more storage purposes.
Thank you.

 

[swr444]

With the very recent swr timetable change as off Monday 21st February 2022. Does anyone kindly know iff any further reduction in fleet to the 455 or 458 will now occur. Ie off lease or withdrawal 455 wise. Or 458 going for modifications ie widnes or withdrawal etc. Does this include another large batch off units going to long marston again for more storage purposes.
Thank you.

I think WarrenTManager mentioned not that long ago that no other trains will be going off lease (455 I think he said) until 701s start coming into service.

 

[warwickshire]

I think WarrenTManager mentioned not that long ago that no other trains will be going off lease (455 I think he said) until 701s start coming into service.

I hope that 455 still do remain in service because come time in the next few weeks swr might just realise that more trains are needed.
However what is the situation on the 458s? because it still remains a bit uncertain about their status at the momment especially as off this week as less are needed.
Are any 458 going to leave earlier for scrap or refurbishment earlier. Rather than later?

 

[Goldfish62]

I hope that 455 still do remain in service because come time in the next few weeks swr might just realise that more trains are needed.

If you mean extra trains in the timetable then I agree.

My train into Richmond this morning was the busiest I've seen it for a couple of years and we're at the start of people going back to work in earnest for at least some of the week.

 

[Snow1964]

If you mean extra trains in the timetable then I agree.

My train into Richmond this morning was the busiest I've seen it for a couple of years and we're at the start of people going back to work in earnest for at least some of the week.

London had school half term last week, but some areas are this week. It is likely that as soon as schools are back, more people will return to work.

The big risk for SWR is that if the middle 3 days (Tuesday-Thursday) rush hour trains get anything close to pre pandemic loadings then SWR is going to struggle as it 200-300 coaches short of its franchise launch commitments. It can’t really bring that many into service in a few days if return to work happens quickly

 

[warwickshire]

If you mean extra trains in the timetable then I agree.

My train into Richmond this morning was the busiest I've seen it for a couple of years and we're at the start of people going back to work in earnest for at least some of the week.

Yes most certainly extra trains need to return.
Including the reading extra rush hour services.

 

[amazon1675]

London had school half term last week, but some areas are this week. It is likely that as soon as schools are back, more people will return to work.

The big risk for SWR is that if the middle 3 days (Tuesday-Thursday) rush hour trains get anything close to pre pandemic loadings then SWR is going to struggle as it 200-300 coaches short of its franchise launch commitments. It can’t really bring that many into service in a few days if return to work happens quickly

Franchise is dead isn't it?

 

[gmaguire]

Would it be at all feasible to have the spare 465s and 466s on the south western in the event the capacity was needed and they were the only stock available?