--Updated slightly due to new information)
Timetables have been published for the revised T3, T3C, T2 & T28 (was X28) routes on the Cyngor Gwynedd Council website.
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The times (especially last services) differ from previously proposed timetables. And from a personal perspective, I'd be interested to see how the new T3/T3C goes.
T2 yes it may have a nicer timetable but let's not mess around here. You have increased journey times as all buses now plod around Commis Coch and all trips now go via Criccieth (and for some daft reason, they are still sending the bus via Tremadog rather than via Porthmadog Aldi. I presume to keep the train connection that no one actually makes).
Mach-Doll has a later first bus and earlier last bus returning. (According to Lloyds, this is not the case, seemingly a lack of communication somewhere along the line) Bangor has a pretty raw deal out of this too with first and last buses in and out an hour later/earlier respectively.
Sunday's shame to see services from Mach Northbound starting 4 hours later.
Bad news for Morrisons shoppers too as trips to Aberystwyth Morrisons will be gone. Not sure how well used this link is, it does feel a bit like Lloyds had spare time and for trips with a break, it's a better place to give buses a break out of the way.
What I don't get is why ruin the core long distance route sending it around Criccieth and then have the new stupid T22 (which doesn't even seem to be going ahead yet based off the lack of timetable and registration) become the fast bus between Porthmadog and Caernarfon. Penalize longer distance travellers to satisfy shorter distance ones. That's always a good way to win over passengers! Very much like someone has doctored this all in such a way to give the T22 some patronage to save it being the completely stupid idea that it really is. Someone justifying their job or idea.
On the T3,
Mon-Fri is has a reduction of 1 bus from Wrexham and 2 buses per day to Wrexham. Much more frequent on Sundays but on reduced operating hours which isn't very good. First bus from Corwen now 2 hours later and the last bus from Barmouth through to Ruabon 3.5 hours earlier and 50 minutes earlier through to Wrexham! With Sundays being all T3, a few villages will lose their Sundays service, I wonder how this will go down. Not like they use it much but we all know what villages are like with their 'lifeline services'.
Really good to see the reduced journey times though, just a shame Wrexham loses out on some journeys.
It looks like Lloyds Wrexham depot is closing based off the T3 timetable and so hopefully this will put a stop to the antics of diverting off route on Sundays so you can sit on a bus in Doll depot while they fuel the bus.
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Interesing that the T3 will no longer go through Johnstown. I don't think that the usage was too high and there are plenty of alternatives. What doesn't make sense though is the insistence on the T3 going via Wrexham B&Q. This area is frequently congested and from my experience, little used. Why is it not diverted to come off the A494 one junction earlier and then go via Croesnewydd Rd. This would provide a proper bus service for the estates around Croesnewydd Rd but also provide a half decent bus service to Moneypenny which reportedly has 900 staff based out of their Wrexham office. (
https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/20217470.moneypenny-wrexham-office-pub-gym-treehouse/)
Moneypenny HQ, based in Wrexham is home to around 900 employees and the office is pretty extraordinary.
Mixed bag really, Monday - Saturday core timetable is very poor in my opinion with the reduced operating hours. So much for encouraging people to use public transport eh. Please use buses, but don't use it for commuting to the cities and don't use it for nights out and don't use it for day trips from the cities into the tourist areas. You must stay if you want to make full use of the day, oh and by the way that's now going to cost you more because of the tourist tax. Couldn't make it up.
Sunday's yes some improvements but again, reduced operating times.