Central line - shortage of serviceable trains

[James H]

In a few weeks time I need to take a group from Holborn to Theydon Bois and back on a Saturday.

Should we allow extra time for our journey given the rolling stock shortage, or are we likely to be OK on a Saturday?

 

[ThameslinkUser]

Live departures from Holborn today (a Saturday) at 11 am show a constant drip of Epping services.

 

[bramling]

In a few weeks time I need to take a group from Holborn to Theydon Bois and back on a Saturday.

Should we allow extra time for our journey given the rolling stock shortage, or are we likely to be OK on a Saturday?

I would certainly allow a modest amount of extra time, both to account for extended intervals between trains, and also the possibility that trains will be more crowded as a result.

This issue is likely to go on for months or even years, though there is a special reduced timetable imminent which should regularise things a bit.

 

[Mojo]

This issue is likely to go on for months or even years, though there is a special reduced timetable imminent which should regularise things a bit.

However this timetable is only going to apply Mondays to Thursdays (coming into effect this Monday, 26th February), which means unfortunately for the time being extended gaps on Fridays and Saturdays particularly.

 

[Snow1964]

If you were to 100% believe TfL, then all is back to normal as Central line is being advertised as Good Service

Tube, Overground, Elizabeth line, DLR & Tram status updates

Realtime Tube, Overground, Elizabeth line, DLR & Tram travel updates.

tfl.gov.uk

 

[stuu]

If you were to 100% believe TfL, then all is back to normal as Central line is being advertised as Good Service

Tube, Overground, Elizabeth line, DLR & Tram status updates

Realtime Tube, Overground, Elizabeth line, DLR & Tram travel updates.

tfl.gov.uk

That is in terms of the new timetable of course. If they released a timetable with one train an hour and achieved it that would be a good service

 

[Dstock7080]

"Good service" for the 53 train reduced timetable introduced last week.

 

[Busman]

Live departures from Holborn today (a Saturday) at 11 am show a constant drip of Epping services.

Bad luck if you're a Hainault via Newbury Park passenger.

 

[TrainGeekUK]

Especially today..

Central Line: NO SERVICE between Leytonstone, Epping and Hainault via Woodford while we fix a signal failure at Woodford. GOOD SERVICE on the rest of the line. London Underground tickets are being accepted London Buses via any reasonable route.

 

[xtmw]

Failed again also yesterday - it seems the Woodford area is becoming abit of an operational headache

 

[Brooke]

"Good service" for the 53 train reduced timetable introduced last week.

“Good Service” again today.

Luckily I was only going back & forth between central and Stratford but even for that the combination of reduced timetable and multiple speed restrictions has added about 5 minutes to the journey time vs before this mess.

Is there a speed restriction the whole way from Mile End to Stratford?

That section has trains drifting leisurely along all the way, and they cannot be being checked by a train in front!

 

[xtmw]

There is a speed restriction the entire way both roads between Stratford and Mile End.

On the westbound there's one point where it'll go to the appropriate target speed for the section, but it quickly brakes back down to 35KPH

 

[Roylang]

Does anybody know if the various temporary timetables that have been put into action on the central line over the past few months are available as PDFs? They didn't seem to appear on the usual WTT pages.

Thanks in advance,

Roy

 

[Dstock7080]

TTN99/24 introduced 26 February 2024, 60 train service Mon-Thur, with provisions for 58, 56, 53 train availability.
TTN100/24 introduced 15 April 2024, 60 train service daily, with provisions for 58, 56, 53 train availability Mon-Fri; 58, 55 Sat and 57, 54, 51 Sun.

 

[Mojo]

They don’t usually publish TTNs [Timetable Notices] on that page (some years they publish the Met line leaf fall season).

If nobody else has done so you could ask for it under FoI though. The poster above has given the details of what to ask for.

 

[Roylang]

Thanks both. Much appreciated.

Edit: could not find a FOI request so have submitted one.

Roy

 

[xtmw]

TTN99/24 can be found here

https://foi.tfl.gov.uk/FOI-4388-2324/TTN%2099-24%20(Cent).pdf