Progress on Avanti West Coast's 805/807s Hitachi AT300 sets

[AlterEgo]

What would the latter have been doing at Euston?

Gauging tests for diversions.

 

[800001]

What would the latter have been doing at Euston?

It’s also been to Waterloo, as gauge clearance testing, for when the GWML is closed at Old Oak Common as part of HS2 work.

 

[Mikey C]

There are going to be some really interesting journeys for the enthusiasts if GWR will be operating into both Waterloo and Euston!

 

[Samzino]

Above Image Of A GWR IET Unit At Euston(Source A Group Chat Most Likely Found On Twitter/X)

 

[800001]

There are going to be some really interesting journeys for the enthusiasts if GWR will be operating into both Waterloo and Euston!

Think I saw that the preference is into Euston, 2 paths per hour.

 

[irish_rail]

Think I saw that the preference is into Euston, 2 paths per hour.

Would both options be a possibility? Say stuff ex west country into Waterloo, and stuff ex Bristol and South Wales into Euston? Would this provide more capacity ?

 

[800001]

Would both options be a possibility? Say stuff ex west country into Waterloo, and stuff ex Bristol and South Wales into Euston? Would this provide more capacity ?

The more you can divert the better it is for customers. Suppose all depends on what driver resource would be available, and how many paths.

 

[PudseyBearHST]

Will any GWR drivers be learning the route or will it always be conductor drivers being utilised?

 

[Boodiggy]

Think I saw that the preference is into Euston, 2 paths per hour.

1 to Penzance and 1 to South Wales

And potentially the GW Sleeper

 

[Bald Rick]

Would both options be a possibility? Say stuff ex west country into Waterloo, and stuff ex Bristol and South Wales into Euston? Would this provide more capacity ?

No, because of capacity on the NLL.

 

[gabrielhj07]

Is there no scope to do what some HSTs did and use the SWML, or even the Windsor Lines?

 

[dereksingh291]

hope anyone dosent mind me asking but what is a GWR 800 doing at Euston??

 

[Jimini]

hope anyone dosent mind me asking but what is a GWR 800 doing at Euston??

As per @AlterEgo 's post above, it's for gauging tests for diversions for the Old Oak Common works later this year.

 

[JW4]

805/807 Drivers Manual

 

[danbarjon]

Just watching the TfN Board Meeting and they have mentioned the 805 trains having to run to Liverpool due to electricity supply issues in the Crewe area. 805s will run between Crewe and Liverpool on diesel. They have also mentioned their target to introduce these are June.

 

[Northerngirl]

10 car set currently shuttling between Rhyl & Chester, didn't catch the number

 

[DJH1971]

Just watching the TfN Board Meeting and they have mentioned the 805 trains having to run to Liverpool due to electricity supply issues in the Crewe area. 805s will run between Crewe and Liverpool on diesel. They have also mentioned their target to introduce these are June.

So does that mean the 807's won't be working to Liverpool?

 

[norbitonflyer]

Just watching the TfN Board Meeting and they have mentioned the 805 trains having to run to Liverpool due to electricity supply issues in the Crewe area. 805s will run between Crewe and Liverpool on diesel. They have also mentioned their target to introduce these are June.

That seems odd. Pendolinos have been running to Liverpool for twenty years. So why will replacing them with shorter 807s (let alone 805s) be a problem for the power supply?

 

[Railperf]

Just watching the TfN Board Meeting and they have mentioned the 805 trains having to run to Liverpool due to electricity supply issues in the Crewe area. 805s will run between Crewe and Liverpool on diesel. They have also mentioned their target to introduce these are June.

Another couple of minutes lost running on diesel then lol.

 

[E6007]

That seems odd. Pendolinos have been running to Liverpool for twenty years. So why will replacing them with shorter 807s (let alone 805s) be a problem for the power supply?

Demand for electricity will be higher due to diesel trains (221s) being replaced by electrics (805 / 807s) and the doubling of the frequency of trains to Liverpool. Is the supply up to it?

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Demand for electricity will be higher due to diesel trains (221s) being replaced by electrics (805 / 807s) and the doubling of the frequency of trains to Liverpool. Is the supply up to it?

But LNR runs fewer services to Liverpool than it did, and all the freight uses diesel these days.
The route's power supply and feeding methods have also been expensively upgraded in recent years as part of WCRM.

 

[childwallblues]

Just watching the TfN Board Meeting and they have mentioned the 805 trains having to run to Liverpool due to electricity supply issues in the Crewe area. 805s will run between Crewe and Liverpool on diesel. They have also mentioned their target to introduce these are June.

Is this a temporary issue whilst Liverpoll crews are trained on 805s?

 

[danbarjon]

That seems odd. Pendolinos have been running to Liverpool for twenty years. So why will replacing them with shorter 807s (let alone 805s) be a problem for the power supply?

I would imagine it's the extra services they will be running as the current trains seem to have no issues

Is this a temporary issue whilst Liverpoll crews are trained on 805s?

I'm not too sure, the FirstGroup Managing Director mentioned more drivers are being trained for resilience. I must say having an unnecessary diesel train sat in Liverpool will be a shame.

 

[Railperf]

I would imagine it's the extra services they will be running as the current trains seem to have no issues


I'm not too sure, the FirstGroup Managing Director mentioned more drivers are being trained for resilience. I must say having an unnecessary diesel train sat in Liverpool will be a shame.

How not to run a railway - part 805. Order a new fleet of bi-mode trains to reduce CO2 and to remove diesel running 'under the wires' - which will have to run on diesel under the wires because the leccy supply has not been upgraded for them. You couldn't make it up!!

 

[danbarjon]

How not to run a railway - part 805. Order a new fleet of bi-mode trains to reduce CO2 and to remove diesel running 'under the wires' - which will have to run on diesel under the wires because the leccy supply has not been upgraded for them. You couldn't make it up!!

I'd like to say it is a shambles but knowing Avanti they will make it worst probably next week they will say they are running Voyagers to Liverpool...

 

[Mikey C]

Surely the 805s will be needed for North Wales services? What will happen to the 807s now?

 

[kkong]

805/807 Drivers Manual

Couldn't they afford the extra printing cost for the apostrophe?

 

[danbarjon]

Surely the 805s will be needed for North Wales services? What will happen to the 807s now?

Unknown. I definitely don't think they will be running in doubles as they've only got 13 and will need to split them between North Wales and Liverpool...

 

[92002]

Unknown. I definitely don't think they will be running in doubles as they've only got 13 and will need to split them between North Wales and Liverpool...

Presumably till supply is upgraded the 807s will cover Birmingham and Blackpool services

 

[Bletchleyite]

Presumably till supply is upgraded the 807s will cover Birmingham and Blackpool services

They would be anyway.