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Class 321 storage/scrapping

DannyMich2018

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No one found a use for them on passenger services after other rolling stock was put into service.

Like the generation of rolling stock before the 321s they only managed 30ish years of service.
Of course quite a few Class 321s were reduced to 3 cars and converted to Class 320s for Scotrail so will still be around for some time.
 
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physics34

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No one found a use for them on passenger services after other rolling stock was put into service.

Like the generation of rolling stock before the 321s they only managed 30ish years of service.
Wouldve liked them to go to GN so southern could get ALL the 387s not just 25... but that's very selfish of me being a southern-ite
 

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Wouldve liked them to go to GN so southern could get ALL the 387s not just 25... but that's very selfish of me being a southern-ite
Class 321s worked on the GN between 2009 and 2017.

But they could not do so now as they don't have on board cameras for Driver Only Operation. The platform cameras and mirrors for Driver Only Operation are no longer maintained.
 

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are they being used do you know?
Does anyone know if these Varamis units are doing any regular loaded work, and between which locations? I have not seen anything to indicate what services they might be doing, except for some trial trips months ago. The whole concept of parcels emus is rather frought, presumably they need to use stations (rather than yards) to load and unload and accommodation for this will be very limited during the daytime. At nightime there might be more platform accommodation avaliable, assuming stations are not full of berthed passenger stock but then you have the added complications of nightime engineering works on the line. Perhaps they intend to use the Royal Mail terminals at various places, but I wonder who actually owns these and some like the ones in Newcastle, Doncaster and Tonbridge have not been used for their intended purpose for several years, indeed, Doncaster is used by GBRf for loco stabling !
 

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Apart from Mossend-Daventry (2 units) and sitting in Willesden Yard, what are these 321s actually doing?

And why have they got the 325s when they can’t actually find work for the existing units?
 

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57303 + 321312 321319 on today's 5Q26 Walton Old Jnc Sdgs to Newport Docks (Unimetals)
 

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Sims group Australia sold most of its European business to a new company called unimetals and is the transition period to the new name
 

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Many thanks for the link, this does indeed explain the situation: One return service a day between Mossend and Birmingham Internation (not stopping anywhere for work) and another "as required". Can anyone say, are these contract trains for a single customer and how are the trains loaded and unloaded in Mossend Down yard? At Birmingham International the station platforms must be used, but are they worked from ground level with a fork-lift at Mossend, or is there some other method?.
 

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Episode 15 of the latest series of Michael Portilio's Great British Railway Journeys features the Varamis operation at Birmingham International. Broadcast at 18:30 this Friday on BBC2 or available now on iPlayer.
 

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