Dstock7080
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All new bogies from July 2000-April 2002
It doesn't, of course, follow that because that is true for one type of rolling stock it is true for all types of rolling stock.With 455s, when there were 456s too, it was possible to have a 455 + 455 + 456 combo 10car formation of AC motor IGBT control 455 + DC motor resistor control 455 + thryristor control DC motor 456 - and it all worked
On one occasion I deliberately set about finding such 10car combos and managed Waterloo - Kingston loop anti clockwise - CLJ - Kingston loop clockwise - Waterloo.
Post is in reference to scattered posts upthread about mixing original and retractioned units.
never implied it didIt doesn't, of course, follow that because that is true for one type of rolling stock it is true for all types of rolling stock.
AIUI mixed formation is a project goal but they just can't do it yet it is a lower priority target. SW 455s were the same when the first ones appeared they could not inter mix then later they could; you bake the cake before icing it.Mixed formation will be possible for trains out of passenger service
'double-ending' in LU termsI've noticed that the Hainault shuttle trainsis top and tailed with a driver at each end, supposedly to speed up the turnaround at Woodford, can't say I've noticed much of a difference in turnaround time to be honest when I've used it.
Acton Works only has the space for so many trains
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You can also just use the shunting panel fitted at every autocoupler.It has always puzzled me though why that facility is set up to work on 8car trains and not on 2car units or 4car half trains.
I accept that moving cars there might be better done as complete 8car sets and a need to have an equal throughput of AB and BC elements, but why they need a 5 road building 8cars long and work complete unit by complete unit, well, I can only say there must be method in the madness.
Before anyone says "how would you shunt 2car bits ?", there is already some form of shunting tractor in the Acton CLIP facility - or, at least, there was; some sort of little yellow tug thing.
Before anyone says "how would you shunt 2car bits ?", there is already some form of shunting tractor in the Acton CLIP facility - or, at least, there was; some sort of little yellow tug thing.
What would be the benefit of not doing complete trains at a time? We've been told upthread that unrefurbished and refurbished units will not be able to work together, so there's no benefit in doing 2 car chunks as you wouldn't be able to use them anyway until you had a full trains worth.It has always puzzled me though why that facility is set up to work on 8car trains and not on 2car units or 4car half trains.
I accept that moving cars there might be better done as complete 8car sets and a need to have an equal throughput of AB and BC elements, but why they need a 5 road building 8cars long and work complete unit by complete unit, well, I can only say there must be method in the madness.
Before anyone says "how would you shunt 2car bits ?", there is already some form of shunting tractor in the Acton CLIP facility - or, at least, there was; some sort of little yellow tug thing.
Appears that LUL have issued a consultation on extending RVAR non-compliant vehicles through to 2029.
Whole series of exemptions :
- public address not announcing destination in stations (want to do it when train has departed)
- floors having too steep slopes to wheelchair areas (presumably could roll back whilst entering)
- handrails not between 30 and 40mm (undersize so those with arthritis might not be able to grip)
- coloured floor band not compliant (so people with poor eyesight can see step)
- single handrails, so person with weakness on one side might not be able to use doorway (laughingly solution suggested is use next carriage, but then handrail on wrong side when exiting)
etc
link to page with consultation reply email address
RVAR 2010 exemption: London Underground Limited Bakerloo line
Seeks views on the Rail Vehicle Accessibility Regulations (RVAR) exemption request by London Underground Limited in respect of the Bakerloo line.www.gov.uk
No new trains have been ordered nor is any funding presently available for such order. The exemption is to cover through to the completion of the existing refurbishment project.Will new trains be ready by 2029, though? If not, they might need yet another exemption in the future.
Appears that LUL have issued a consultation on extending RVAR non-compliant vehicles through to 2029.
Whole series of exemptions :
- public address not announcing destination in stations (want to do it when train has departed)
- floors having too steep slopes to wheelchair areas (presumably could roll back whilst entering)
- handrails not between 30 and 40mm (undersize so those with arthritis might not be able to grip)
- coloured floor band not compliant (so people with poor eyesight can see step)
- single handrails, so person with weakness on one side might not be able to use doorway (laughingly solution suggested is use next carriage, but then handrail on wrong side when exiting)
etc
link to page with consultation reply email address
RVAR 2010 exemption: London Underground Limited Bakerloo line
Seeks views on the Rail Vehicle Accessibility Regulations (RVAR) exemption request by London Underground Limited in respect of the Bakerloo line.www.gov.uk
Seems like they were previously granted an exemption few years ago based on the refurbishment being completed in 2024.No new trains have been ordered nor is any funding presently available for such order. The exemption is to cover through to the completion of the existing refurbishment project.