Avanti West Coast rebrand

[221101 Voyager]

For those who may not know, 390119 is not in service today after having problems with it's tilting mechanism during yesterday's launch trip to Manchester. I believe it's being repaired at Longsight TMD. Hopefully it'll be out again tomorrow so I can get a good shot of it when it's not raining!

 

[The_Train]

For those who may not know, 390119 is not in service today after having problems with it's tilting mechanism during yesterday's launch trip to Manchester. I believe it's being repaired at Longsight TMD. Hopefully it'll be out again tomorrow so I can get a good shot of it when it's not raining!

No doubt that will be caused by too much colour on it in some peoples eyes

Out of interest does anyone have the lowdown on which units are now in full or 'half' (half obviously meaning driving cars) Avanti livery and which remain in the ghostly remains of the all white please?

 

[221101 Voyager]

No doubt that will be caused by too much colour on it in some peoples eyes

Out of interest does anyone have the lowdown on which units are now in full or 'half' (half obviously meaning driving cars) Avanti livery and which remain in the ghostly remains of the all white please?

I do. Bare with while i get my list.

These are the ones I've seen and photographed, I'll add more shortly.

These are all partial liveries unless noted otherwise.
221/1
101 (Plain White)
102 and rest of fleet (Unbranded VT Silver livery)

390/0
008
013 (White) still white on 24/08/20
040 (White) still white on 22/08/20
042 (9-car mask-olino)
043
044
045
047
049

390/1
103
104
112
117
119 (The colourful pride one!)
121
122 (11-car mask-olino)
124 (White) still white on 24/08/20
125
126 (White) still white on 22/08/20
127
128
129 (White) still white on 22/08/20
130
134
135 (White) still white on 24/08/20
136
137
141
152
153
155 (Full Livery)
156 (Full Livery)

That's a total of 27 390's now in some kind of Avanti livery.

 

[Bletchleyite]

They seem to have fixed the logo now:
View attachment 82754

Regards the "original" Avanti WC livery - I didn't like it at first. But, having seen it on a Pendolino crossing a bridge at a high speed, I really think it looks rather impressive when you see it in motion, and I really like it.

I think it's a grower, other than the triangle-with-A needs to have the A replaced with either the full brand or the actual coach letter. But only the full version, not the rubbish "dealership white" version.

 

[py_megapixel]

I think it's a grower, other than the triangle-with-A needs to have the A replaced with either the full brand or the actual coach letter. But only the full version, not the rubbish "dealership white" version.

Yes. What I actually saw was the "dealership white" with Avanti ends. I saw the front go through, and then I somehow felt a little disappointed that I didn't get to watch the whole livery!

 

[The_Train]

I do. Bare with while i get my list.

These are the ones I've seen and photographed, I'll add more shortly.

These are all partial liveries unless noted otherwise.
390/0
008
030
043
045
047
049

390/1
103
104
117
121
125
127
128
130
134
136
137
141
152
153
155 (Full Livery)
156 (Full Livery)

Thats amazing, thanks a lot. I've been a bit lax in keeping my records up to date so this helps. I'll check my own photographs and see if I can add any to the list I assume then that apart from 119, any not listed above are in all white (to the best of your knowledge)?

 

[221101 Voyager]

Thats amazing, thanks a lot. I've been a bit lax in keeping my records up to date so this helps. I'll check my own photographs and see if I can add any to the list I assume then that apart from 119, any not listed above are in all white (to the best of your knowledge)?

Your welcome. Yes check the post again as I've added some more.

 

[C J Snarzell]

Aside from the PRIDE design, I actually prefer the front of the train in that purple colour than Avanti's standard green colour.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Aside from the PRIDE design, I actually prefer the front of the train in that purple colour than Avanti's standard green colour.

Ugh, no. It's the same nasty, insipid purple that the Scout Association are using on their publicity. A slightly darker purple I'd agree.

 

[The_Train]

Ugh, no. It's the same nasty, insipid purple that the Scout Association are using on their publicity. A slightly darker purple I'd agree.

Are you saying you don't like the new Pride livery? I wish you'd make it clearer

Your welcome. Yes check the post again as I've added some more.

Thanks very much. Just going to make my tea and will then update my records

 

[Bletchleyite]

Are you saying you don't like the new Pride livery? I wish you'd make it clearer

To be clear - I like the idea of Pride liveries (and indeed variant liveries generally, provided they are nicely done). I don't like that Pride livery

As one example I'm quite a fan of the way New St's Tensabarriers (inside at the B end) are rainbow colours which I suspect is Pride related (they predate the NHS using the rainbow too).

 

[The_Train]

To be clear - I like the idea of Pride liveries (and indeed variant liveries generally, provided they are nicely done). I don't like that Pride livery

As one example I'm quite a fan of the way New St's Tensabarriers (inside at the B end) are rainbow colours which I suspect is Pride related (they predate the NHS using the rainbow too).

I'm only messing Everyone is entitled to an opinion on the colour scheme of a train - providing said opinion is expressed in the right manner as yours and most others have been on here

 

[py_megapixel]

Video has appeared from AWC's contractor showing the application of the vinyls for the Pride livery; probably nothing unexpected being done here but it gives you a nice view of the whole livery

 

[DarloRich]

Video has appeared from AWC's contractor showing the application of the vinyls for the Pride livery; probably nothing unexpected being done here but it gives you a nice view of the whole livery

Great to see the social media wibbling about this train. It is fantastic. So many angry & silly snowflakes so easily triggered about the colour of a train. More of this I say!

 

[PR1Berske]

Great to see the social media wibbling about this train. It is fantastic. So many angry & silly snowflakes so easily triggered about the colour of a train. More of this I say!

I did see a classic reply on Twitter. "If you're offended by the Avanti Pride train, don't worry, there are plenty of straight trains also running today"

 

[221101 Voyager]

I did see a classic reply on Twitter. "If you're offended by the Avanti Pride train, don't worry, there are plenty of straight trains also running today"

 

[py_megapixel]

I did see a classic reply on Twitter. "If you're offended by the Avanti Pride train, don't worry, there are plenty of straight trains also running today"

I thought the whole point of the Pendolinos was that they tilted, so they didn't have to be straight, even at high speeds

 

[LeylandLen]

Just came across this Daily Mail article from yesterday ; no one else has posted it. Sorry for unnecessary adverts in the article and associated Daily Mail stuff. I dont know how to isolate the article so posting the link.
Not sure what the person quoted means asking about 'pathetic virtue signallers ' and why does article say the train has an engine at the front?

Avanti West Coast's 'pride train' sparks fury among LGBT passengers

Hundreds of Twitter users complained about the brightly-coloured Avanti West Coast train, which made its first journey with an LGBT-only crew, saying it was actually 'regressive'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[DarloRich]

Not sure what the person quoted means asking about 'pathetic virtue signallers ' and why does article say the train has an engine at the front?

because Daily Mail......................

 

[GlitterUnicorn]

Just came across this Daily Mail article from yesterday ; no one else has posted it. Sorry for unnecessary adverts in the article and associated Daily Mail stuff. I dont know how to isolate the article so posting the link.
Not sure what the person quoted means asking about 'pathetic virtue signallers ' and why does article say the train has an engine at the front?

Avanti West Coast's 'pride train' sparks fury among LGBT passengers

Hundreds of Twitter users complained about the brightly-coloured Avanti West Coast train, which made its first journey with an LGBT-only crew, saying it was actually 'regressive'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

It's a pretty common media strategy they use. They find an LGBT person who doesn't like something to do with lgbt inclusion then use them as a proxy for opposing it. That way they can deflected the implication that they're homophobic and instead say that they're standing up for *actual* LGBT people.

I do a lot of work for trans rights and there are a handful of transphobic trans people who seem to be quoted in the media every few weeks opposing legal protections for Trans and Non binary people. It's quite frustrating because the average person doesn't realise what they're up to.

 

[43096]

I thought the whole point of the Pendolinos was that they tilted, so they didn't have to be straight, even at high speeds

Ironic that the Pride one suffered a tilt failure so was straight....

 

[221101 Voyager]

Ironic that the Pride one suffered a tilt failure so was straight....

Yes indeed, it was back out this morning though as I saw it at Wolverton this morning. It went to Liverpool and will be back through Wolverton at 14:29.

 

[The_Train]

Just came across this Daily Mail article from yesterday ; no one else has posted it. Sorry for unnecessary adverts in the article and associated Daily Mail stuff. I dont know how to isolate the article so posting the link.
Not sure what the person quoted means asking about 'pathetic virtue signallers ' and why does article say the train has an engine at the front?

Avanti West Coast's 'pride train' sparks fury among LGBT passengers

Hundreds of Twitter users complained about the brightly-coloured Avanti West Coast train, which made its first journey with an LGBT-only crew, saying it was actually 'regressive'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Unfortunately you lost me after the 5th and 6th words of your post. That rag, along with the s*n should have been closed down a long time ago

 

[221101 Voyager]

If there’s a list for this somewhere feel free to add it.

390148 is now Avanti ended.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

My thanks to those have kept my list up to date in my absence. Here's an update.
Regards, TT-ONR-NRN.


Avanti West Coast Rebranded Trains
Updated 28/8/2020


221101 Neutral white, Avanti West Coast branding
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: 101 Squadron

221102 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: John Cabot

221103 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Christopher Columbus

221104 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Sir John Franklin

221105 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: William Baffin

221106 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Willem Barents

221107 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Sir Marten Frobisher

221108 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Sir Ernest Shackleton

221109 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Marco Polo

221110 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: James Cook

221111 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Roald Amundsen

221112 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Ferdinand Magellan

221113 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Sir Walter Raleigh

221114 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Royal Airforce Centenary: 1918-2018

221115 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Polmadie Depot

221116 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: City of Bangor/Dinas Bangor

221117 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: The Wrekin Giant

221118 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded

221142 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Bombardier Voyager

221143 Virgin Challenger Red/Silver, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, metal: Auguste Pickard



390001 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Bee Together

390002 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Stephen Sutton

390005 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Wolverhampton

390006 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Rethink Mental Illness

390008 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Charles Rennie Mackintosh

390009 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Treaty of Union

390010 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
No Window Bands
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Cumbrian Spirit

390011 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Lichfield

390012 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390013 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390016 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390020 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390039 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
No Window Bands
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Lady Godiva

390040 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390042 Neutral white, Avanti West Coast branding
Yellow “Facemask” branding on driving cars

390043 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390044 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390045 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390046 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390047 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390049 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390050 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
No Window Bands

390103 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390104 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Alstom Pendolino

390107 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390112 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390114 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Manchester

390115 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Crewe - All Change

390117 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Blue Peter

390118 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390119 Avanti West Coast "PRIDE" vinyls

390121 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390122 Neutral white, blank, Avanti West Coast branding
Yellow “Facemask” branding on driving cars
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Penny the Pendolino

390123 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390124 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390125 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390126 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390127 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390128 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390129 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Stoke-on-Trent

390130 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Edinburgh

390131 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Liverpool

390132 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Birmingham

390134 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Carlisle

390135 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Lancaster

390136 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Coventry

390137 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390138 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of London

390141 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: City of Chester

390148 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Flying Scouseman

390151 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390152 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390153 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Driving carriages only
Intermediate cars unbranded

390154 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390155 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange

390156 Avanti West Coast Turquoise/Orange
Cabside Avanti nameplate, vinyl: Pride and Prosperity

390157 Neutral white, blank, unbranded
Central Virgin nameplate, vinyl: Chad Varah


Hi, I’m TT-ONR-NRN and I monitor the rebranding of Avanti West Coast’s fleet. I try to post updates regularly, if you become aware of any changes please do let me know.

 

[I13]

390013 Neutral white, blank, unbranded

390013 is still Blackpool Belle.

 

[palmersears]

Today's 390119 allocations if anybody fancies a bank holiday stroll to see it:

1S37 EUSTON 0531
1M12 GLASGOW C 11:37
1S90 EUSTON 17:10
5S90 GLASGOW C 22:32

Usual caveats apply.

 

[59CosG95]

3900010 & 039 now have window bands; 390046 seems to be running without them.

When did 390107 get partially "Avanti'd"? Flickr searches tell me that it was still all white 4 days ago.

 

[ScottGallagher]

Is there any news yet on the refurbishment? Wasn't sure whether to start a new thread ( my previous wishlist one not open for further posts)

 

[Skie]

Early 2021 for Pendo refurb. They havent even shown any renders or said what the 'exiting new food offer' will be.