I'm presuming you meant 450, and from memory when the key is removed on the desiros the tail lights are automatically put on at the front of the unit (alongside the headlights)
Ah yes, 450. I didn’t look at it properly and thought it was a 458.
I'm presuming you meant 450, and from memory when the key is removed on the desiros the tail lights are automatically put on at the front of the unit (alongside the headlights)
Putting the marker lights on alongside the tails is used as an informal visual indication/reminder to the shunter there that the stock has been prepped and good to go. If a Desiro has just reds then it probably hasn’t been prepped since arriving in the yard.Slightly OT, but what’s the meaning behind headlights and taillights on that [450] please?
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Bombardier are apparently unable to build them so they work satisfactorilyWhy are these 701s 4 years late? Crazy to think they are going from storage yard to storage yard. To think up until recently Long Marston was filled with the 196s for West Midland Railways and now the same location is being filled with 701s way out of their comfort zone. Mad world isn't it?
Being pedantic that is true since since Bombardier no longer own Derby worksBombardier are apparently unable to build them so they work satisfactorily
Effectively because they can't. SWR and DfT are partially culpable for delays.Why aren't Rock Rail cancelling the order and ordering Desiros instead?
They have accepted some units so presumably they are now stuck with them. No 3rd rail TOC wants a micro fleet so its probably best to solider on with the 701s, however long it takes to get them in revenue earning service.Why aren't Rock Rail cancelling the order and ordering Desiros instead?
701033 on 5Q50 this morning.
Think they have been testing to Reading before, with two 701s on test today, maybe the software working better?701010 was at Reading today (5Q46). I think it’s the first time I’ve seen one testing where they’re actually supposed to operate, maybe a sign of some progress?
Yes, I was there yesterday evening. 014, 017 and 047 present. Not sure when/where 028 departed to.Caught photos of these 2 bad boys sat in Clapham junction sidings whilst my train had stopped on the platform.
701 028 was definitely still there on Saturday, if that helps?Yes, I was there yesterday evening. 014, 017 and 047 present. Not sure when/where 028 departed to.
Cheers Peter701 028 was definitely still there on Saturday, if that helps?
I wonder how long a public enquiry would take and how much it would cost. As a taxpayer I doubt I would consider it worthwhile. As a farepayer on SWR, mainly using class 159s, I might feel that the next time there's a big new order for trains on the southwestern network will be so far ahead that the people who will then be doing it will have largely forgotten about the events of 2017 - 2023.When the trains are finally in service and have several months usage under their belts I hope a public enquiry us setup to see what has gone wrong. As a fare payer and tax payer I and others deserve to know so that future lessons can hopefully be learnt.
How public and useful would it be? Lots of it would be commercially sensitive, and everyone will be heavily lawyered into saying as little as possible to avoid creating a legal case against their employer from one of the other parties.I wonder how long a public enquiry would take and how much it would cost. As a taxpayer I doubt I would consider it worthwhile. As a farepayer on SWR, mainly using class 159s, I might feel that the next time there's a big new order for trains on the southwestern network will be so far ahead that the people who will then be doing it will have largely forgotten about the events of 2017 - 2023.
Also isn't it under the present system the leasing company Angel and manufacturer Alstom taking the loss, rather than the taxpayer?. However when good they will make healthy profits (from ticket sales and subsidies) to easily cover the loss.How public and useful would it be? Lots of it would be commercially sensitive, and everyone will be heavily lawyered into saying as little as possible to avoid creating a legal case against their employer from one of the other parties.
So well after other Aventra units. But it's at least progress I suppose.Not sure it has been picked up here yet but, noticed on a journey through Clapham earlier, and confirmed in the picture above from @spark001uk that it seems the 701s have now be cut in electrically. The tail lamps have gone from the units in the middle roads and the tail lamps on the unit can just me made out. These units must have had the necessary capacitor alterations made by Alstom.
It is indeed. (the leasing company for the 701 is Rock Rail not Angel)Also isn't it under the present system the leasing company Angel and manufacturer Alstom taking the loss, rather than the taxpayer?. However when good they will make healthy profits (from ticket sales and subsidies) to easily cover the loss.
Also isn't it under the present system the leasing company Angel and manufacturer Alstom taking the loss, rather than the taxpayer?. However when good they will make healthy profits (from ticket sales and subsidies) to easily cover the loss.