Quite so - and that is exactly what you have when the rear two cars are adjacent the narowest part of the platform and everyone has to negoitate it to reach the more spacious area near the stairs.
But earlier you complained specifically about the stop car mark arrangements creating a passenger safety issue stemming from passengers walking along “
next to a drop onto the
track (
where the rear cars of the train should be).”
In fact platform with no departing train next to it is
safer! There’s nothing to be gained from discussing this point further, so suggest agreement to disagree.
Clearly Epsom line trains do not have the same problems as Kingston line trains. Maybe you should come to Kingston and familiarise yourself with the issues.
I was referring to your complaints about Waterloo, which are not something I’ve particularly noticed whenever using the station.
Incidentally at Epsom there was a similar problematic layout with the station exit being at the same end of the train as the Waterloo buffer-stops. In the evenings I never found it a major issue simply to travel in the country end of the train, even if that meant a longer walk at Waterloo, and then a few minutes extra to negotiate the exit queue at Epsom (vice versa in the mornings of course). This was also in the era before oyster and contactless had reached Epsom (circa. 2013/14), and with a much more clearly defined AM/PM peak than now!
As noted, hopefully the new fleet will make a difference albeit clearly, of themselves, the 701s won’t improve poor station layouts.
But then, SWR and now SWT have always favoured the lines where they have competition (Hounslow Loop v Piccadilly Line, and Epsom v Southern). When your market share is guaranteed to be 100%, why bother trying?
I’m not sure this thread is the place for (yet another) generalised moan about SWR.
Were you referring to a different post regarding Waterloo? My comment was only on Wimbledon.
Apologies yes - see above! Wimbledon certainly isn’t great based on every time I’ve used it (albeit nowhere near as many times as Epsom or Waterloo).
The fully walkable trains of yhe class 701 will definitely be good. I am the sort of person, who will join a train at the back, if it is about to leave and then walk towards the front to get a seat, even if it's very busy because often I will get a seat.
Agreed, same here. It’s bizarre how it can make such a huge difference to comfort, yet so many don’t bother!