I don’t think that would happen - off the top of my head the coaches are different (such as the 72 stock having bay seats and the 73 just has seats on the sides)Any chance some of the better 1973s could go and replace some of the worse 1972s on the Bakerloo ?
Not sure why the seat configuration would be an issue.I don’t think that would happen - off the top of my head the coaches are different (such as the 72 stock having bay seats and the 73 just has seats on the sides)
73ts carriages are probably too long to run on the curviest parts of the Bakerloo lineNot sure why the seat configuration would be an issue.
Could help for a little while.There's no real point moving the 1973 stock to the Bakerloo Line if the plan is to introduce the 2024 stock to the Bakerloo in the future.
Temporarily putting the 73s on the Bakerloo line meaning the Bakerloo would be one carriage short. (72s have 7 carriages compared to 73s only 6 carriages) Overcrowding might become an issue.Any chance some of the better 1973s could go and replace some of the worse 1972s on the Bakerloo ?
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In current condition yes but they can be modified to run on the Bakerloo line as has been done with the ex-73 stock carriage in the Track Recording Unit.73ts carriages are probably too long to run on the curviest parts of the Bakerloo line
73 stock has longer carriages than 72 stock so capacity wise a 6-car train of 73 stock is roughly the same as a 7-car train of 72 stock.Temporarily putting the 73s on the Bakerloo line meaning the Bakerloo would be one carriage short. (72s have 7 carriages compared to 73s only 6 carriages) Overcrowding might become an issue.
Curious how you could say these knackered old dogs have had a sedate working life? Because the Piccs have a single fast stretch, or longer journeys? The Bakerloo has more intensive turns, working NR lines, complicated depot moves - and both share some horrible screechy curves. I don’t see a competition here, both need new asap.The 72 stock has has a comparatively sedate working life that apart from a few years on the Jubilee line in the late 70s/early 80s has been entirely on the Bakerloo line.
The 1992 stock is ATO so likely out of the question.If the Central Line jumped the queue for replacement stock, then maybe some of the best 92s could be used on the Bakerloo Line (reduced to 7 cars). The 92 cars are the same length as the 72s, so presumably would fit.
The 1992 stock is ATO so likely out of the question.
A funded pledge? Where is the money going to come from? They would need to carefully word their pledge to say that they would seek funds rather than to actually commit to replacement.I wouldn't be surprised if Bakerloo Line stock replacement is a pledge by both Sadiq Khan and Susan Hall in their manifesto.
The Bakerloo line is a bit of a backwater to all intents and purposes. It may be costly to keep the 1972 stock operational but that essentially comes out of a different budget.It's pretty obvious that the 1972 stock is not fit for purpose and keeping it going longer is going to be costly in the long run.
The option expires in 2026 so a commitment to exercise the contract options by that time isn't impossible.A funded pledge? Where is the money going to come from? They would need to carefully word their pledge to say that they would seek funds rather than to actually commit to replacement.
The 484s are a bit younger in terms of the body shell but it's all new in terms of everything else so unlikely they'd go to the Isle of Wight.If it takes long enough for them to get replaced, it might replace the 484s on Island Line!
I suspect TfL aren't going to be using Alstom for anything given they've gone for CAF and Siemens for the B23s and 2024 stock. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the option exercised once a new Government in in power regardless who is Mayor.I think the 73 stock feels more modern than the 72 due to their more extensive interior modernisation so my suggestion is that they should be replaced by whatever is in the best condition.
Also if the option expires in 2026 for 24 stock I can see there being a decision to allow competition if Derby is still around
If anything, all that would do would be reduce overcrowdingI don’t think that would happen - [] (such as the 72 stock having bay seats and the 73 just has seats on the sides)
If anything, all that would do would be reduce overcrowding
But can be manually driven as it is on the Waterloo & City line.
In current condition yes but they can be modified to run on the Bakerloo line as has been done with the ex-73 stock carriage in the Track Recording Unit.