johncrossley
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OK, so this is the Daily Express
So why quote it if it's not a reputable source of news? Clicking on that link gives them money.
OK, so this is the Daily Express
Britain should follow the USA and Italy. We must place travel restrictions on Chinese visitors entering our country immediately.
The argument might be that Labour will bring in heavier restrictions. Starmer has remained silent on this subject, since opposing the lifting of restrictions during the pandemic, so we don't know.If the Tories cannot keep the U.K. out of restrictions, that is the last argument in favour of voting for them gone.
I have a horrible feeling that by the second week of January we'll have reports of Chinese people travelling through third countries to avoid testing, as part of a push to impose testing before travel from everywhere, not just from China. I wouldn't be surprised if testing after travel rears its ugly head too, so that we can "check for new variants."...and all this testing sets the stage nicely for the discovery of some new scary-sounding 'variant', which can then be used for another trip around the pointlessly damaging cycle of the last few years.
Cynical, moi? Well, yes, you'd be crazy not to be at this point... Hopefully we won't be naive enough to fall for it this time. I guess we'll see.
Do you mean the Covid modelling data? I see no reason to postpone anything.I assume the recording of cases which IIRC was supposed to be finishing on the 6th of January will be postponed now?
Independent SAGE bore Christine Pagel has already said that testing China arrivals is pointless… unless we test all arrivals. And to be fair, if we assume arguendo that testing is important (which I don’t, but assume…), she has a point.have a horrible feeling that by the second week of January we'll have reports of Chinese people travelling through third countries to avoid testing, as part of a push to impose testing before travel from everywhere, not just from China.
Who could have predicted Pagel and the Government inverting their thinking one day?Independent SAGE bore Christine Pagel has already said that testing China arrivals is pointless… unless we test all arrivals.
I too can see the media getting itself whipped up into a frenzy about this logical contradiction, and the government will have to either back down or expand testing.
It is illogical but there is no reason why a logical solution would be implemented; indeed none is needed.Independent SAGE bore Christine Pagel has already said that testing China arrivals is pointless… unless we test all arrivals. And to be fair, if we assume arguendo that testing is important (which I don’t, but assume…), she has a point.
Therefore I too can see the media getting itself whipped up into a frenzy about this logical contradiction, and the government will have to either back down or expand testing.
There are already mask mandates in Wales - in medical settings, for flu +covid.As if the country wasn't already completely broken - probably be mask mandates this time next week.
But it's important to keep this into perspective; there are no restrictions except for people travelling from China and there aren't going to be any other restrictions. There is no other place in the world which has had its level of immunity suppressed as much as China so there isn't going to be anywhere else like this to generate any sort of similar response in future.
I think they’d be right to think it is popular:
I suspect this poll is biased in favour of not testing too, since he is a travel journalist.
Ultimately people are keen of restrictions which apply to people other than themselves, if sold as reducing the chance of restrictions on themselves. That also explains why the “test all arrivals” response is low (only 15%).
On the strength of what?As if the country wasn't already completely broken - probably be mask mandates this time next week.
Xenophobia.The question is: why are 72.5% in favour of testing of Chinese visitors?
Once it starts it's a slippery slope. Probably discover a "variant" to throw into the mix as well in the next few daysOn the strength of what?
And just like that the real problems in this country, inflation, cost of living, strikes etc are swept under the carpet and removed from the public psyche (the stupid ones anyway). The CCP have once again played a blinder
Of course Richi Sunak has not, and will never, suffer from the economic fall-out of over-severe and over-prolonged restrictions.Government has caved. Apparently Sunak took the decision himself, and has overridden the scientific advice which said it was not needed. Ffs. This will never end.
Yes, I do think it is important for people (and governments as well) not to panic at this stage.
The fact is that most of Western Europe and North America has a high level of immunity to COVID, through vaccination and/or prior infection, so the only reason for introducing more drastic travel restrictions would be if a new variant emerges from China, AND that variant is shown to be more resistant to the vaccines used in the Western world.
Once the Chinese "exit wave" subsides, which it will do in a few weeks time, like all other COVID "waves", the panic will start to subside as well.
If Western countries such as the UK aren't routinely testing for COVID or publishing COVID statistics anymore, then any slight increase in cases that MAY happen as a result of increased Chinese tourism will be less noticeable than it might otherwise have been.
Personally I think this will end up being like compulsory face nappies on public transport in England from November 2021 until February 2022. ie. a short term measure introduced as a panicked response to a perceived threat.
Xenophobia.
No one will be pannicking, it's giving the Communist party of China a political message.
And just like that the real problems in this country, inflation, cost of living, strikes etc are swept under the carpet and removed from the public psyche (the stupid ones anyway). The CCP have once again played a blinder
Perhaps you are right, in that there is a political motive to all of this.
The Chinese new year is on 22nd January, so it wouldn't surprise me if the testing requirement stays in place until after then.
That won't be a coincidence, Governments always look for excuses for not dealing with genuine problems; Putin's actions in Ukraine have been used plentifully in this way, and with news that gas prices have dropped down to the levels they were at in February, this excuse will be wearing thin before long, so if covid can make a revival they'll be delighted.And just like that the real problems in this country, inflation, cost of living, strikes etc are swept under the carpet and removed from the public psyche (the stupid ones anyway). The CCP have once again played a blinder
Not a fan of this government by any means but if I see another comment on social media "late again" or something like that I'll scream! If they're late what does that make Germany, France etc?
Not a fan of this government by any means but if I see another comment on social media "late again" or something like that I'll scream! If they're late what does that make Germany, France etc?